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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2004, 11:29:43 am »
This is slightly OT, and I'm sure covered in previous threads, but does makecompat work with the Sharp PIM's from the v 3.13 ROM?  More importantly, would Intellisync 3.2 work with OZ 3.5.1 and these apps?  I love OZ overall, and am largely indifferent about the PIM apps, but unfortunately Outlook at work is a necessity--including sync'ing text notes and e-mail attachments. . .
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2004, 12:13:29 pm »
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but does makecompat work with the Sharp PIM's from the v 3.13 ROM? More importantly, would Intellisync 3.2 work with OZ 3.5.1 and these apps? I love OZ overall, and am largely indifferent about the PIM apps, but unfortunately Outlook at work is a necessity--including sync'ing text notes and e-mail attachments. . .

This is complicated.

The later Sharp apps are difficult to get running, and even then they don't run too well. This has been discussed (on the devnet, and more recently on this forum), and should be easily found with a search (search either for hancom or pim apps as all the new versions suffer the same problems). The compat libs will be required in any case (as the GCC version has changed - they do nothing but overcome the name-mangling differences anyway).

I'm not sure about the later version of Intellisync; you'd have to install samba, but it probably wouldn't work anyway, however it'd be interesting to know either way.


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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2004, 01:42:57 am »
WOW! It seems excessively difficult to install stuff under OZ. I mean, on my FC2 laptop I can use yum or even rpm to do it. But so far I have failed to have even one application that I installed with ipkg work at all.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2004, 02:24:03 am »
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I've installed Hancom word and sheet. I have a sl-5600 and have installed everything so far to my sd card which is formatted ext2. My procedure may or may not work for you.

In package manager, I defined a target "card" which points to /mnt/card. You will also need to install the compatibility libs. Find and download the older Hancom ipks (I could not get the 1.5.0s to work).

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What are the compatibility libs & where can I find them?

I had OZ 3.2 on my 5000d installed previously, and I don't remember having to install any compatibility libs.

This is what I had installed on OZ 3.2:

Hancom Mobile Word 1.4.4
Hancom Presenter Viewer 1.2.8
Hancom Sheet 1.0.1
Jeode 3.0.4

One nice feature with 3.5.1 is that I've found it syncs perfectly with Qtopia Desktop 1.7 running under my Slackware Linux.  :-)

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2004, 06:21:08 am »
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WOW! It seems excessively difficult to install stuff under OZ. I mean, on my FC2 laptop I can use yum or even rpm to do it. But so far I have failed to have even one application that I installed with ipkg work at all.

I don't understand your difficulty. The installation of the latest Sharp ROM apps is not anything like the same as installing a normal package. These apps have to be copied across manually (including their entire lib dependency chain), this is what causes these specific troubles.

For a normal install, setup your feed (or use local files) and use 'ipkg install'. seems pretty easy to me (much the same as using rpm in fact).

What (which packages) are you having trouble with?

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What are the compatibility libs & where can I find them?

they fix name mangling between GCC 2.95 & GXX 3.xx C++ apps & in the feed.

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I had OZ 3.2 on my 5000d installed previously, and I don't remember having to install any compatibility libs.

No, you wouldn't have needed them as OZ3.2 was compiled with GCC 2.95 rather than GCC 3.xx.


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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2004, 12:29:19 pm »
Yes, I use ipkg install. I've tried to install the Hancom apps as well as VisualQ, Qpaint and a couple others. One of two things always happens:

1. There's a dependency that it claims it can't satisfy, so I download the package to satisfy the dependence and it says it's not installing it because all the files are already provided by an identically named package that is already installed. For example, Qpaint requires qpe-base, which requires qpe-embedded. It tells me it doesn't have qpe-embedded, but then when I try to install qpe-embedded it gives me a bunch of "not installing foo because it's already provided by qpe-embedded" messages. I'm paraphrasing a little bit.

2. It seems to install okay, but doesn't run. This is what VisualQ seems to do.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2004, 12:55:20 pm »
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1. There's a dependency that it claims it can't satisfy, so I download the package to satisfy the dependence and it says it's not installing it because all the files are already provided by an identically named package that is already installed. For example, Qpaint requires qpe-base, which requires qpe-embedded. It tells me it doesn't have qpe-embedded, but then when I try to install qpe-embedded it gives me a bunch of "not installing foo because it's already provided by qpe-embedded" messages. I'm paraphrasing a little bit.

qpe-base is provided by opie-base, use -force-depends and ignore the message.

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2. It seems to install okay, but doesn't run. This is what VisualQ seems to do.

Tried it from the command line? You probably need the compat libs.


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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2004, 01:09:25 pm »
Yeah, I used -force-depends last night and it didn't seem to work. I'll try again. I want to use this Zaurus to edit images and OpenOffice docs and surf the web wirelessly (including FTP) and that's it. If I could get those few things working I'd be happy.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2004, 01:12:02 pm »
Hmmm... when I install qpaint I also get:

update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/portmap: file does not exist

Why does that file not exist?
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2004, 03:05:35 pm »
No idea, it's probably a something which a different package was trying to alter (as I see no reason for qpaint to be bothered with it), I'd ignore it.

The file in question probably has something to do with the portmap application (wild guess ;-)), I'm not exactly sure what it does, but it's probably not too important.


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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2004, 03:16:05 pm »
So, the portmap problem apparently has something to do with the default package manager (see the other thread where you just replied to me).  So I installed opie-aqpkg and now I"m at least getting different error messages-- the Hancom apps apparently don't specify an architecture now.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2004, 06:23:05 am »
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So, the portmap problem apparently has something to do with the default package manager

No, I just said that I don't think it would be affecting what you're installing (or caused by what you're installing).

It's also not a problem with the package manager.

My guess is that some package has installed a script (as part of the ipk) which is trying to access portmap. I don't know why, I don't know which (but I've not seen this error so I presume it's something you've installed). You could try using grep to find out where it's called from....?

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So I installed opie-aqpkg and now I"m at least getting different error messages-- the Hancom apps apparently don't specify an architecture now.

This is a documented problem with the control files in the hancom app ipks....

A quick search for "Hancom AND control" found a number of hits. Try this one:
https://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...com,and,control


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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2004, 12:38:29 pm »
As soon as I went to the Cacko ROM I was able to install and run Hancom, VIsualQ, and the other apps I've been having trouble with.

I'm going to chalk this up to OZ 3.5.1 really being more of an alpha than a beta
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2004, 03:55:50 pm »
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As soon as I went to the Cacko ROM I was able to install and run Hancom, VIsualQ, and the other apps I've been having trouble with.

I'm going to chalk this up to OZ 3.5.1 really being more of an alpha than a beta smile.gif

No, this is because Cacko is based on the Sharo ROM (and uses the same crippled ipkg). OZ uses a different version of ipkg (read later, more robust, better IMHO ;-)), which is more choosy about the format of the control files.

With regards to running things the same holds true - Cacko is based on the Sharp ROM, whereas OZ is moving forward (to GCC 3.x and a later libc)  which is why you need the compat libs.

Glad you've found what you were after anyway.


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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2004, 02:45:19 pm »
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Make sure the binary exists (i.e. you've run ipkg-link if needs be).

It does work.


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It definately exists and runs *something*, then takes a while for it to complain about something missing.

After trying from the command line I get this:

./hancomword
qeclient_sendcommand(): failed to connect() (after 20 sec wait)!

Looks like a quickexec problem, so I:

/etc/init.d/quickexec start

Now if I run from the command-line it returns right away. If I run from the launcher it comes back right away with the "could not find" message.
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