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« on: October 18, 2004, 02:06:23 pm »
Anyone using the ZThinCable or other serial cable plus terminal emulation software (minicom, zconsole, JeTermZ, etc) with their Z?

Personally I own a C860, and I'd like to use it to connect to and admin several types of devices, including PC's, Sun's, Cisco and Checkpoint boxes, and other random appliances.

Please share your reccomendations/stories on serial connectivity. Thanks.

-Daniel

links:
zThinCable/JeTermZ - http://www.serialio.com/products/adaptors/ZThinCable.htm
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2004, 04:15:02 pm »
That sounds awesome, I've never tried it though.

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 04:46:24 am »
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Personally I own a C860, and I'd like to use it to connect to and admin several types of devices, including PC's, Sun's, Cisco and Checkpoint boxes, and other random appliances.

I do use my 760 to admin Sun machines via serial Port. I had no problems using  the Z for the SUN machines with a "normal" serial port (9-pol or 25-pol).

I'm not using the ZThinCable - I use a cable similar to this from my local reseller in Germany.

Regarding the newer Sun machines with RJ12 serial ports I'm  still looking for an adapter to use these ports with my Z.

On the Z I use kermit for this purpose.

HTH

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2004, 08:31:34 am »
I've also got the Zthincable for my C860, but still have not been able to get it to connect to my Sun processor.
Tried minicom, zconsole and kermit, but never managed to get the terminal to
return anything. All I want is a 9600,8,N,1 serial connection

Anybody give me a pointer as to what I've missed

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2004, 09:14:15 am »
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I've also got the Zthincable for my C860, but still have not been able to get it to connect to my Sun processor.
Tried minicom, zconsole and kermit, but never managed to get the terminal to
return anything. All I want is a 9600,8,N,1 serial connection

Anybody give me a pointer as to what I've missed
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I've also got the Zthincable for my C860, but still have not been able to get it to connect to my Sun processor.
What kind of SUN machine?

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Tried minicom, zconsole and kermit, but never managed to get the terminal to
return anything. All I want is a 9600,8,N,1 serial connection

Don't know about the Zthincable - maybe you need a null modem?

regards

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2004, 01:23:31 pm »
Ditto to the null modem. The Zthin cable is made for the PC end to be the host machine not the peripheral.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2004, 01:57:36 pm »
What about using a modem card and connecting to a modem on the other machine? Should this work? Has anyone done it. I tried and failed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2004, 03:24:07 pm »
I have the ZThin cable and also the Bluetooth Aircable.  Both work great with kermit and my c860.  I use it with Linux servers, terminal servers, switches, etc...

I prefer the Aircable, I can configure a switch 30 feet away.

With Aircable you have two options.  I have tested both.

1. Z and host serial adapters.
2. Host only with Z BT adapter.

Add Expect to your kit.  I use Expect to automate kermit to configure switches and save a lot of typing.

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2004, 03:40:25 pm »
Thanks for all your suggestions. Keep them coming.

datajerk - there are two modules for the aircable (Z + serial) right? Can you use the serial module part by itself with a BT enabled laptop? Or does it require use of the Z module? I wasn't sure after skimming their tech specs.

-Daniel

links:
http://www.aircable.net/AIRcable/ZaurusSerial.html
http://www.aircable.net/AIRcable/SerialTech.html
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2004, 11:37:03 am »
The DB9 male Aircable BT Serial adapter is pinned like a PC DB9 male and will work standalone with any BT host that supports BT serial devices.  I use it with my XP BT enabled nookbook and also with my Z's Bluemonkey BT adapter.

Out the box Aircable defaults to pairing only with other Aircable products, you will need to connect at 115200 to a serial port and send a few commands to switch modes.  Once switched to BT serial provider mode you can browse for it from any BT host.  Settings remain until you reset the device.

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2004, 10:11:44 am »
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Out the box Aircable defaults to pairing only with other Aircable products, you will need to connect at 115200 to a serial port and send a few commands to switch modes.  Once switched to BT serial provider mode you can browse for it from any BT host.  Settings remain until you reset the device.
Oh, maybe this is why I've been having hell with the Aircable I got today. Can't get it to pair with my mobile phone. So maybe it's set to pair only with an Aircable, like you say.

Could you specify how I can switch it, so that it pairs with my mobile, like you mention above?

Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2004, 03:12:19 pm »
I was referring to the DB9 adapters, they default to pair with other Aircable products like the Zaurus serial BT adapter.

I found this on their website for Zaurus serial BT pairing with phones.  I actually use a BT CF card for my phone, never tried the Aircable with a phone.

http://aircable.net/AIRcable/ZaurusCellTech.html

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2004, 05:28:04 pm »
I thought you were referring to this. It does say here something about changing modes.

I can't pair the device according to the how-to from their site that you point to.

So thought maybe if I could change the mode as you were talking about it in accordance with what the page above says it'd work...
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2004, 06:38:22 pm »
That is the document I used to set the DB9 adapters to pair with my Z Bluemonkey BT adapter and my XP notebook.

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2004, 06:53:21 pm »
Oh, can I then change the mode on the Aircable too?

How did you do it on the Z?

I installed minicom on the zaurus, configured it for the Aircable, i.e. the baud parity and stuff.

But how do I send the ctrl-A ... commands to the Aircable then?
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