Anybody know what this bluetooth card is?

[tumnus]

I will pay a visit to my local phone shop tomorrow or Monday. 

It seems the phone people don\'t want you to connect to a modem, they just want to sell you data packages, most that I have spoken to said it\'s impossible, I know this is untrue.

The phone shops won\'t know any ISPs and they\'ll try and rip you off on Bluetooth devices. Which operator are you with? Try calling their customer services, they may well have the info on the ISP at least and you could try connecting via IR before going for Bluetooth. When I was trying to get HCSCD working before going for GPRS I got through to a 3rd level support guy at Orange that was in the process of getting a SL-5500 himself

[n8a]

Peter - i\'d suggest that you try calling sales for t-mobile/at&t/etc. in england and tell them that you\'re interested in that functionality - dialing THROUGH the phone as a modem to reach your ISP.  before joining t-mobile, i talked to sales and asked several questions about their data package - bits/second, full offered functionality, etc., and when they couldn\'t answer me they\'d transfer me to technical people who could.  some of the techs were really good and knew exactly what i was getting at.  same thing at at&t here in the states.

[zbones]

OK, I will ring a few providers tommorrow.

I am currently using a two year old sony J70 on vodaphone pay as you go, so I need a new phone anyway!

As far as ISP\'s go, I use cable at home, and NTL do provide a free (for cable subscribers) dial up account.  how that works I am not too bothered about, as long as I can connect to a modem I can connect to my work modem, and if needs be, I can plug my old dialup modem into my phone line and dial my home number to get a connection   .  I would just pay for the phone calls then, and it would be safer for VNC, as I would not need to open up my firewall to allow incoming internet connections.

Wouldn\'t it be great if somebody did a 802.11b enabled phone!!

Peter.

[soycap]

Do you know if this setup will allow you to dial up to a modem by supplying a phone number?

This is something I will need to do.

I think you will if you don\'t have some type of instant on service like GPRS.  I\'m sure it can be done through ppp once you get the devices to pair with each other, but I don\'t have the details on it.

If you havn\'t used bluetooth before, you\'ll get a better feel for it once you get a card to play with.

[tumnus]

Ok, I\'ve fixed the issues with the Bluemonkey card. I\'ll have to upload the latest BlueZ ipks to the ZUG Downloads section as the DevNet Community site is down at the moment.

It seems quite solid now. Haven\'t had a single lockup even though I was doing quite a lot of ejecting etc while trying to get my wife\'s Philips Fisio 820 (horrible phone) connected via GPRS, but that was more pppd problems than anything. Bluetooth part works fine.

[zbones]

If you havn\'t used bluetooth before, you\'ll get a better feel for it once you get a card to play with.

This is indeed true, however I can not afford to risk buying a bt solution that doesn\'t work for me.  I also cannot afford to sign up a 12 month contract at £25 per month for a phone that will not work for me.

it\'s a \"catch 22\" situation  :cry:  

This is why I wanted to try and find working solutions, buy the same hardware, and hopefully it will work.

We have a working solution with the aircable and t68i, but my local shops do not stock the phone, and there are potential issues at the moment.

Ok, I\'ve fixed the issues with the Bluemonkey card

Thanks tumnus, so it looks like the bluemonkey card is working with affix, and BlueZ.  So I think this is a good bet.

Also the god of Bluez, owns one, so it cannot be a bad choice   .

I pray that they haven\'t changed the chipset recently    

The phone choice is not too scary, I will have 14 days to exchange it  with carphone wharehouse.  Also Soycap reports it as working with an se t616 (which I cannot seem to find in the uk), and lots of people have reported the se t610 as working with other bt cards.

I can get the t610 free, with a 12 mnth contract, it is a good size and has one of the best talk/standby times on the market.

I also like the 2yr old se J70 I currently own, I have had no issues with it, but it has no ir/bt.

I think I have made my choice  :?  

I will order the cf card first, and take it from there.

I got kinda giddy when I found that bt do a \"free call home\" package for up to 1000 mins a month on the t610.  My home isp idea seemed perfect for this  :twisted: .
 
Sadly, after reading the small print, it is only for \"quick\" calls, quick is defined as \"up to 2 mins\", barely enough time to connect to the modem   :evil:

Thanks to all who have posted. and here\'s hoping for a smooth connection when the hardware arrives.

Peter[/quote]

[soycap]

We have a working solution with the aircable and t68i, but my local shops do not stock the phone.

Consider the T610/616 in place of the T68i.  It may cost a bit more, but it is an incredible phone and should work esentially the same as far as bluetooth goes.

[soycap]

I need to read more closely... and more often:

Also Soycap reports it as working with an se t616 (which I cannot seem to find in the uk), and lots of people have reported the se t610 as working with other bt cards.

I can get the t610 free, with a 12 mnth contract, it is a good size and has one of the best talk/standby times on the market.

FREE! Just go get it then.  Even if you can\'t get bluetooth to work, the phone still rocks.  It actually makes a better PIM than the Z for my purposes and enables me to focuse me Z exploits on more interesting projects

I think the only difference between the 610 and 616 is that are configured for different reigonal frequencies:

http://www.mobiledia.com/forum/topic2822.html

[zbones]

I went into carphone warhouse this afternoon and left with the t610.
The phone was free, but you have to sign up for a 12 month contract.

The good news is that they are doing the vodaphone gprs data packs for half price for a year if you buy one now.

I ordered the bluemonkey card from expansys too, it should arrive on Tuesday, so I will let you know how I get on.

Thanks to all for the advice.

Peter

[tumnus]

Just so you know, the Bluemonkey fixes can now be found in the latest BlueZ driver package from here: http://community.zaurus.com/projects/bluez (hopefully I did not forget anything)

[zbones]

Just so you know, the Bluemonkey fixes can now be found in the latest BlueZ driver package

Many thanks,
I loo forward to trying thus out.

Peter

[zbones]

Well, I got the bluemonkey card the other day, and within 10 mins I had the phone paired and the two devices talking using the cacko rom on my 760.

Trouble was that it connected fine, but the only thing I could do was nslookup, nothing else worked, no web pages nothing.

I made two calls to vodaphone, and was given several connect strings to type etc but still no dice. I got the usual expected response when I told them what device it was. \"so what version of pocket PC are you running then?\" etc....  I eventually said, \"look forget about what machine I am using, just tell me what connect strings to use.\"

The problem turned out to be that they kept telling me to use either *99***1# or +CGDCONT=1,\"IP\",\"internet\".

I eventually worked it out myself, my phone came with vodaphone live already setup to use gprs, I had been connecting to that, which is not the internet, so could not \"see\" the real internet.

Anyway, the connection I had added was CID 2, so here are the settings I used to get it all working.

I am just listing what I changed from the default..

Account tab: username \"web\" password \"web\" phone \"\"*99***2#\" or replace 2 with whatever your cid was.

modem: init string \"AT&Z\", BT DUN, picked up from the search box.

If I use the cf icon to eject the bluemonkey card, the light on the card comes on, and the zaurus crashes, needing me to remove the battery to power back up.  This happens whether I have been using it or not  :shock:

Anyway, I found two simple ways round that, do not use the cf icon to eject the card, simply pull it out or suspend the zaurus and pull the card out while it\'s suspended.  These both work fine, everytime.

I did try to install all the latest packages from tumnus, but as the old ones are already installed on the rom, the software installer did not show them as available for removal so I simply installed the new packages over the top.  This didn\'t work and it refused to connect after that, the error was \"failed to open /dev/rfcomm0: host is down\".

At this point I did my first nand restore, as I wanted to test this out anyway.

So it all works fine, apart from the eject bit which has a work around.
Dialup to freeserve works fine too, but is a lot slower than gprs.  But could work out cheaper if using free minutes or downloading large files.

Thanks to all who helped me get this far.

So All I need to know, is what program is used from the task bar icon to eject the card?  and what do I need to put in there to stop it from locking up, or which package on your site contains just the eject fix, so I can manually install it.

Tumnus, I was a bit gutted at first to find that you have got the socket \"G\" rev working as it is a smaller card.  However, now I have used it, the bluemonkey does not stick out very far at all (only 1cm), and the activity light is a big plus.  When you also consider that this card is £40 cheaper, this to me makes it a better choice than the socket card.

[tumnus]

Dunno why the BlueZ packages did not install properly. That\'s the problem with all these different ROMs

Anyway, the susp-resume packages should have installed OK, otherwise I would have thought you would get lockups with the Bluemonkey card on a suspend or resume.

The fix for the ejecting lockup is in /etc/pcmcia/bluetooth in the main BlueZ driver package. You should be able to just unpack the BlueZ ipk and copy the fixed bluetooth script over the existing one.

I think I\'ve got the Socket G card working, but no one has responded yet to say \"yes, it works out of the box.\" That activity light on the Bluemonkey card is quite handy though as you said.

[zbones]

Tumnus,

I extracted the bluetooth file, copied it to my zaurus and acording to diff the only change was the addition of a \"sleep 1\" command.

Just in case it did work I tried it and it still locks ejecting the card.

I then installed just the new bluez package over the top of the existing suff, and bingo, it worked this time and eject is also working.  

I had to delete the phone pairing and remove/replace the battery in the phone first.

One minor point, cardctl status shows the card as \"ready\" and it never seems to suspend the card. Is this deliberate/necessary? will it be consuming power when I am not using bluetooth but the card is inserted?

Peter.

[tumnus]

Weird...

Is the light on the card on all the time? With mine it is off when not using it in the Zaurus but when I use it in my WinXP laptop the light is always on, so I was assuming that it is at least in some kind of low power standby mode.