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Gemini PDA - Sailfish OS / Re: Sailfishos 3.4.0.24 for early access
« on: October 17, 2020, 06:27:52 am »
Thanks, Frank. Now available to those of us not early access as well. Am downloading as I type.
Looking forward to trying the updated browser.

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Unless you've new information, I would assume that Sailfish is still on its way, but that Davide was a little optimistic in his initial timings. Given how much longer it took for the V23 and then Linux to arrive, and he was specific that work on Sailfish would be worked on only once Android and Linux had been sorted (he explained that the Linux was necessary for Sailfish), my guess would be that we might be due an announcement some time soon. But I haven't written again to inquire and so I've no actual additional info beyond the above supposition and what I wrote earlier.

August is often a quiet month with people away on holidays (not sure whether that has been so true this year). Let's see if there are some more announcements as September gets going.

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Gemini PDA - Hardware / Re: Gemini screen line and not boot
« on: August 19, 2020, 03:54:00 am »
I've had a couple more instances of this, each time the phone cutting out in the middle of a call. In these cases though, running the battery right down (over a couple of days) and then applying power has been sufficient to get the phone to reboot. No need to reflash it at all. I suspect disconnecting the battery would have done, but I was away from home in both cases and therefore didn't have access to the mini screwdriver necessary to get to the battery connection. I might have to take to carrying this with me as a matter of habit when going away.

I am wondering whether replacing the battery might stop me having this problem. But it is odd that the cut out seems to occur even when the battery is close to fully charged.

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Gemini PDA - Hardware / Replacement Planet Battery
« on: August 15, 2020, 05:58:28 am »
Hi all,
My gemini again cut out midway during a phone call and again then refused to boot, showing the corruption described here. This must be the fourth or fifth time I've had this corruption (over the period of about a year), and I've not been counting how many times it cuts out during phone calls (perhaps once a week or a fortnight, often without any corruption, in which case I just reboot and dial again). Anyway, it was a month or so before I was able to reboot it last time. Once again I find myself away from my linux computer (for reflashing) and set of screwdrivers (for disconnecting the battery), and therefore unable to use the phone for an extended period.

I presume the cutting out mid-call must be due to the phone trying to draw too much power from an aged or crap battery. I think this may have begun about a year after I had the phone, which seems a bit rubbish in terms of how long these things should last—and I don't think I've abused the battery. But I am now thinking a couple of year's on from having bought the device perhaps it is time I fitted a new battery.

I believe I read somewhere that Planet charges £70. I see there is a replacement advertised on Amazon here for £50. Or from ebay.co.uk here for £25.50 incl. postage.

I note that apart from the cutting out during phone calls, the battery seems to hold charge for days on end. I normally recharge every night and it often has 60 or 70% charge left at the end of the day — sometimes less perhaps 30%. I've just recently had the phone away from power for a couple of nights without charging. So in theory at least it's holding power ok — except for the crucial matter of cutting out mid-phone call, which seems to happen as much when the charge is at 90% as when low.

Has anyone else tried replacing their battery? Recommendations or advice on choosing between Planet, Amazon and ebay from china. Anyone who has seen this 'cutting out' problem found that a new battery fixes it? Would love to hear positive or negative experiences.

PS I notice the Amazon battery says it will be in stock on Oct 4th and delivered on the 13th-21st, so I guess that rules that out. UK customs have a horrible habit of holding stuff ordered from China and overcharging, so I'm guessing that although the ebay looks more attractive, it may actually cost more like £36 by the time the post office has charged me extra and required me to cycle into the sorting office to collect it (I am extrapolating from my experience of ordering an aftermarket leather case from China for the Cosmo). Still a bit cheaper than Planet's offer though.

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I'm sorry to say I have no experience of this with which I could help you, but I am interested in your results (and those of others). I would love to have a phone that removed google from the equation. (Sailfish has done that very well for me with the Gemini, but isn't yet ready for the Cosmo; and a working non-Google android would be interesting in its own right.)
Do please let us know how you get on. And I hope others on this forum are able to help you.

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Cosmo Communicator - Android / PC's Rooted Android Questions
« on: July 10, 2020, 07:32:22 am »
Quote from: Vistaus
Quote from: AP756
Quote from: Vistaus
Anyone?

The chance it works for you is probably 99%. Never failed for me, your miles may vary. Try it and you know

Did not work for me. After rebooting, the Android screen (black background with the green Android on it) shows, but it also shows that it can't find some required root file or something.

I found that although it downloaded the update, it didn't apply it, even after a reboot. (I checked magisk had permission to access storage as advised by a quick google for the problem, and it did.)  I also tried downloading a zip file, but couldn't see how to apply that (I'm relatively inexperienced Android user, and was horrified to discover it doesn't seem to have a built in method of tackling zip files?!). But Titanium Backup seems to work even without the update applied, so for the moment I shall live with the message that there is an update available.
Grateful if anyone can suggest a fix though.

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Quote from: gabs5807
Strange information  . Why did SailfishOS (community port and 'official' Jolla version run on gemini PDA?
Both are linux and have access to cellular data   . Or what means '... no way to enable cellular data ...'?

At the moment i did not have a SIM Card at my Gemini PDA, so i cannot verify that 'enable mobile data transfer' did work on the latest version.
But i remember that on earlier SailfishX versions it did work ...

On Cosmo forum i read, linux have access to phone and SMS (no mobile data transfer until now).

Mobile data is definitely working on current version of Sailfish. It has kept me working from home via my data plan through 12 weeks of lockdown. I haven't made much use of the Gemian linux; but I thought that I'd read that some people had data working. I think Edward's quote above may be out of date. It was posted some time ago.
My understanding is that Planet are planning to release further work on Linux for Cosmo once they've got the latest Android update out of the way (which I believe has been promised for Monday). Sailfish (which depends on the Linux kernel) will then follow.
I'm hoping this isn't further derailed by covid/lockdown, etc.
Ian

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Cosmo Communicator - Android / v22 is coming this week
« on: June 19, 2020, 11:42:45 am »
Quote from: cam1965
Thank you.
Glad to hear this.

All the evidence is that these things are being worked on. But only by one or two people at most, and seemingly in their spare time. And so it takes much longer than it might with more enthusiasts. I can't understand why a space hasn't been opened up where enthusiasts could contribute. (And ideally example kit seeded out there for free to people with an interest and a proven background in working on this sort of port—I suppose I'm thinking of the Linux side of things. So far as I can tell the Android side was intended to be completed by a company under contract.)

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I dropped Davide another query about current timings for Sailfish for Cosmo. Here is his response (which I posted in the Cosmo forum, but thought the news might also be of interest here). I don't know whether the new build for Cosmo—when it arrives—might also imply an improvement in the build running on Gemini, but it is perhaps not impossible ... :

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Things slowed down quite a bit unfortunately, as we received much less community support for the Cosmo Communicator in the past weeks.

Because of this, there is no place to get in touch with the latest information at the moment, this will hopefully change in the future when/if more people will contribute.

We are working closely with one open source contributor to release the next Linux version. The last Debian/KDE version I tested had suspend/resume when the device is open/closed and Linux modem support, including calls and SMS.

There are a few bugs that needs to be fixed before the release, which should happen in the coming weeks.

The same developer is responsible for the porting Sailfish to the Cosmo, so there will be no progress on it until we complete Debian.


I've reinstalled Android on my Cosmo, just to get a bit of use out of it—but I'm still waiting for the release of Sailfish. The Gemini with Sailfish remains my main phone. And I will also be interested to see the results of their Debian work. I'm not personally in a position to contribute to either Debian or Sailfish development. (Busier than ever in lockdown, what with homeschooling and the day job.) But I wonder whether more people would be able and prepared to contribute if there was a more obvious way to keep track of what was being done and what help is needed.

Anyway, Davide's report that there is work going on that will hopefully reach us in due course is very welcome to me.

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Cosmo Communicator - Linux / Linux still being worked on
« on: June 12, 2020, 04:28:56 pm »
Thought I'd report here (as well as in the Sailfish forum). I dropped Davide another query about current timings for Sailfish. Here is his response:

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Things slowed down quite a bit unfortunately, as we received much less community support for the Cosmo Communicator in the past weeks.

Because of this, there is no place to get in touch with the latest information at the moment, this will hopefully change in the future when/if more people will contribute.

We are working closely with one open source contributor to release the next Linux version. The last Debian/KDE version I tested had suspend/resume when the device is open/closed and Linux modem support, including calls and SMS.

There are a few bugs that needs to be fixed before the release, which should happen in the coming weeks.

The same developer is responsible for the porting Sailfish to the Cosmo, so there will be no progress on it until we complete Debian.


I've reinstalled Android on my Cosmo, just to get a bit of use out of it—but I'm still waiting for the release of Sailfish, and in the meantime my Gemini with Sailfish remains my main phone. (I will be interested to see the results of their Debian work.) I'm not personally in a position to contribute to either Debian or Sailfish development. (Busier than ever in lockdown, what with homeschooling and the day job.) But I wonder whether more people would be able and prepared to contribute if there was a more obvious way to keep track of what was being done and what help is needed.

Anyway, Davide's report that there is work going on that will hopefully reach us before too long is very welcome to me.

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I dropped Davide another query about current timings for Sailfish. Here is his response:

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Things slowed down quite a bit unfortunately, as we received much less community support for the Cosmo Communicator in the past weeks.

Because of this, there is no place to get in touch with the latest information at the moment, this will hopefully change in the future when/if more people will contribute.

We are working closely with one open source contributor to release the next Linux version. The last Debian/KDE version I tested had suspend/resume  when the device is open/closed and Linux modem support, including calls and SMS.

There are a few bugs that needs to be fixed before the release, which should happen in the coming weeks.

The same developer is responsible for the porting Sailfish to the Cosmo, so there will be no progress on it until we complete Debian.

I've reinstalled Android on my Cosmo, just to get a bit of use out of it—but I'm still waiting for the release of Sailfish. (And will also be interested to see the results of their Debian work.) I'm not personally in a position to contribute to either Debian or Sailfish development. (Busier than ever in lockdown, what with homeschooling and the day job.) But I wonder whether more people would be able and prepared to contribute if there was a more obvious way to keep track of what was being done and what help is needed.

Anyway, Davide's report that there is work going on that will hopefully reach us before too long is very welcome to me.

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Quote from: PyramidHead76
I know this is an old thread, but I've called in to see what, if anything is new.

I guess I'm also of the position that I'm disappointed in where we ended up, and I got the wifi version & don't even care about the 4G functionality.

The Android build is old and wastes a lot of screen space in landscape mode for most applications. The Linux build is flaky, missing important drivers and only has access to two cores. Yet Planet are excitedly onto their next crowdfunder/project.

I like the hardware still, but... It's a shame this is where we are.

Agreed. I have been using Sailfish on my Gemini as my main phone and like it as such. I can live without Android apps, if it leaves me free of Google. And Sailfish is fairly elegant as far as it goes. (And it gets regular updates.) It could, I suspect, go further with a larger community of users, and with a newer Linux kernel. I am hoping that eventually such will be released for the Cosmo. An email from Davide Guide of Planet from last month led me to believe there might be an announcement about this this month—May—but I guess that has slipped, as they have needed to concentrate on dealing with Android and its woes. They see Android as their main OS, sadly, and to the disappointment of many of their original backers.

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Gemini PDA - Sailfish OS / New Sailfish OS 3.3.0.14
« on: May 01, 2020, 10:00:50 am »
I got round to installing the upgrade today. All went smoothly. Haven't noticed any differences yet ... which I think is a good thing. Nice to feel that the phone is up to date.

I did hear from Davide Guidi a few weeks ago. Apologies for not posting back here then. He said he thought Sailfish was unlikely to be ready for Cosmo before mid-May. Naturally, as that was still a fair way off at that point, I assume that was a rough 'guestimate' rather than a commitment. I got the impression the priority was the Android update (which was mentioned in latest update) and Linux, then Sailfish.

The latest version can be downloaded from Jolla's shop, if you don't already have Sailfish installed: https://shop.jolla.com

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Davide did reply to me a while ago about Sailfish on Cosmo. His expectation (he wasn't promising anything) was that it might come around mid-May—after various fixes for the Linux towards the end of April.

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Quote from: Vistaus
I know it's a bit offtopic, but since there's no subforum and it has been kind of ported to the Gemini: does anyone know anything regarding the porting of Lumiri (formerly Ubuntu Touch) to the Cosmo? I'd be very interested in running that on my Cosmo
I'm afraid I don't know anything about that, but I'm interested. Can you or anyone point me to where I could find out more?
Thanks,
Ian

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