New Hentges Rom Release Candidate

[Snappy]

Just an update, I got the Opera thingie fixed with help from Greg on another thread.

Again on the note of compatibility, installation of IRK on Hentges rom do not show the IRK option in the handwriting "tab". Do I need to run it with compat libraries too?
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Do you mean the irda beaming?  There's an icon on the taskbar for that (if you expand the bar to show the clipboard).  I got the beaming to work with my other Zaurus - beaming recipes from zeecookbook from one zaurus to the other.  The only trouble is that it renames the files to .dat files and so at the other end you have the bother of having to rename them one by one.
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oh good to know that ir beaming works out of the box. IRK is the driver for ir keyboards. Specifically, I found one that works for Belkin Universal keyboard using IRK-j or something on the SHARP 3.10 and 3.13 rom. Now I am HAPPILY(!:D) running hentges rom on my Z5500 and hopes to have the Belking keyboard running as well ..

[tombraider]

Just an update, I got the Opera thingie fixed with help from Greg on another thread.

Again on the note of compatibility, installation of IRK on Hentges rom do not show the IRK option in the handwriting "tab". Do I need to run it with compat libraries too?
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Do you mean the irda beaming?  There's an icon on the taskbar for that (if you expand the bar to show the clipboard).  I got the beaming to work with my other Zaurus - beaming recipes from zeecookbook from one zaurus to the other.  The only trouble is that it renames the files to .dat files and so at the other end you have the bother of having to rename them one by one.
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oh good to know that ir beaming works out of the box. IRK is the driver for ir keyboards. Specifically, I found one that works for Belkin Universal keyboard using IRK-j or something on the SHARP 3.10 and 3.13 rom. Now I am HAPPILY(!:D) running hentges rom on my Z5500 and hopes to have the Belking keyboard running as well ..
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I have an external irda keyboard also - it's around somewhere...maybe I'll get it out and dust it off and try it if you get yours working.  Forget what kind it is,  but it works with the Sharp ROM.  

[tombraider]

Hi all   

You can find a new Hentges ROM RC here: http://hentges.net/tmp/do_not_use/

Collie: Now ships with the new "r21" kernel, fixing all suspend/resume bugs
Poodle:
Akita: This is the long awaited updated Akita image. It fixes most bugs of the OZ 3.5.3 Akita snapshot.
Please test!

Happy flashing 
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CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

I have a few dumb questions (because I am not a developer or programmer...just an "enduser").

First, every time I've flashed a Hentges ROM,  I wind up with a very tiny amount of internal memory according to system info.  Like right now I think I have around 700kb available.  Why is that?  How can I free more or do I NEED to free more?  Everything seems to run fine.

Second,  I chose (on a whim) to say "yes" to make the sd card "home" or...something.  :-)   What does that do for me....is this for improved performance or what?

Also,  I noticed I now have card1, card2, etc.  which look like that may be partitions of some kind.  Are these of any use?  What can I do with them?  (You are communicating with a pretty clueless person here, you understand.)

Lastly,  thanks for allowing the boot to just "roll on" without an input as to which boot you want (1,2,3, etc.)...makes for an easier reboot.  But what can I do with those other "boots"..like can I put pdaXrom or GPE as an alternate boot?  Or what use can I make of these alternate choices now?  If I have problems getting into OZ, will one of the other boot choices help me?

And why isn't Hentges ROM listed as a subforum on this board?

Thanks for any insight.

[Snappy]

ok, me no CoreDump, but some of the questions can be answered thus ...

AFAIK, if you want more memory, use 64-0 and install to cardfs to SD (or CF) and you should have plenty to spare. By internal memory, I assume you refer to running memory, ie, memory that can be used to run apps and not internal storage that is made from the same memory pool used by running memory...  .

Making /home on SD card allows you to preserve much of your settings and apps from a hard reset. Upon reinstallation, just restore links to SD card and your Z will be back where it was.

the card1, card2 etc are really just mount points. They are (I think) directories and you can mount additional partitions onto them.

As to why Hentges is not having a subforum of its own ...  

CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

I have a few dumb questions (because I am not a developer or programmer...just an "enduser").

First, every time I've flashed a Hentges ROM,  I wind up with a very tiny amount of internal memory according to system info.  Like right now I think I have around 700kb available.  Why is that?  How can I free more or do I NEED to free more?  Everything seems to run fine.

Second,  I chose (on a whim) to say "yes" to make the sd card "home" or...something.  :-)   What does that do for me....is this for improved performance or what?

Also,  I noticed I now have card1, card2, etc.  which look like that may be partitions of some kind.  Are these of any use?  What can I do with them?  (You are communicating with a pretty clueless person here, you understand.)

Lastly,  thanks for allowing the boot to just "roll on" without an input as to which boot you want (1,2,3, etc.)...makes for an easier reboot.  But what can I do with those other "boots"..like can I put pdaXrom or GPE as an alternate boot?  Or what use can I make of these alternate choices now?  If I have problems getting into OZ, will one of the other boot choices help me?

And why isn't Hentges ROM listed as a subforum on this board?

Thanks for any insight.
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[tombraider]

ok, me no CoreDump, but some of the questions can be answered thus ...

AFAIK, if you want more memory, use 64-0 and install to cardfs to SD (or CF) and you should have plenty to spare. By internal memory, I assume you refer to running memory, ie, memory that can be used to run apps and not internal storage that is made from the same memory pool used by running memory...  .

Making /home on SD card allows you to preserve much of your settings and apps from a hard reset. Upon reinstallation, just restore links to SD card and your Z will be back where it was.

the card1, card2 etc are really just mount points. They are (I think) directories and you can mount additional partitions onto them.

As to why Hentges is not having a subforum of its own ...   

CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

I have a few dumb questions (because I am not a developer or programmer...just an "enduser").

First, every time I've flashed a Hentges ROM,  I wind up with a very tiny amount of internal memory according to system info.  Like right now I think I have around 700kb available.  Why is that?  How can I free more or do I NEED to free more?  Everything seems to run fine.

Second,  I chose (on a whim) to say "yes" to make the sd card "home" or...something.  :-)   What does that do for me....is this for improved performance or what?

Also,  I noticed I now have card1, card2, etc.  which look like that may be partitions of some kind.  Are these of any use?  What can I do with them?  (You are communicating with a pretty clueless person here, you understand.)

Lastly,  thanks for allowing the boot to just "roll on" without an input as to which boot you want (1,2,3, etc.)...makes for an easier reboot.  But what can I do with those other "boots"..like can I put pdaXrom or GPE as an alternate boot?  Or what use can I make of these alternate choices now?  If I have problems getting into OZ, will one of the other boot choices help me?

And why isn't Hentges ROM listed as a subforum on this board?

Thanks for any insight.
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Thanks, Snappy.
You answered most of what I wanted to know.  Glad to hear that choosing to put home on my sd card is a GOOD THING.

I guess all these different "memories" confuse me...it's sorta like Microsoft with their Outlook, Outlook Express, Explore, Explorer, Microsoft Explorer...anyway, I have:

At the very top in System info storage tab:
 
Internal Storage / dev/root  Used (13732 kb) Available (732 kb)
Internal Memory (media/ram) Used (1245 kb) available (22552 kb)
Sd card (/media/card) Used (110309 kb) Available (130836 KB)
Sd card (home/root)  Used (110309 kb) Available (241145 kb)

I seem to recall that when I had used the 64-0 flash that I STILL had very little /dev/root space available.  Is this a bad situation or does it not matter?

[CoreDump]

CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

 

I have a few dumb questions (because I am not a developer or programmer...just an "enduser").

First, every time I've flashed a Hentges ROM,  I wind up with a very tiny amount of internal memory according to system info.  Like right now I think I have around 700kb available.  Why is that?  How can I free more or do I NEED to free more?  Everything seems to run fine.

The internal flash (which is mounted as /) is very small on Collie, only ~15Mb. The base Hentges initrd.bin ships leaves only about 700 to 900k of free space. But: that shouldn't be a problem.
Just install all your applications to SD and everything is fine  

Second,  I chose (on a whim) to say "yes" to make the sd card "home" or...something.  :-)   What does that do for me....is this for improved performance or what?

As answered by Snappy, it "moves" your /home/root folder to the SD card. This way you keep
all preferences and settings even after flashing another image.

If you upgrade to a newer Hentges image, the folder on SD will be detected and automatically be used as /home/root again without the need for you to do anything but type "ok"  

Also,  I noticed I now have card1, card2, etc.  which look like that may be partitions of some kind.  Are these of any use?  What can I do with them?  (You are communicating with a pretty clueless person here, you understand.)

This is actually a bug in the current SD auto-mounter (/etc/sdcontrol). card1, card2 etc are not supposed to show up until you insert a SD card with more than one partition. Only a larger scale rewrite
would fix this bug. Time better spend on something else IMO    Maybe one day I'll sit down and do it.

Lastly,  thanks for allowing the boot to just "roll on" without an input as to which boot you want (1,2,3, etc.)...makes for an easier reboot.  But what can I do with those other "boots"..like can I put pdaXrom or GPE as an alternate boot?  Or what use can I make of these alternate choices now?  If I have problems getting into OZ, will one of the other boot choices help me?

Since you can not boot another kernel than the one you've flashed during installation (zImage) you can not boot an OS which depends on a different kernel. pdaXrom will not work (I tried and failed).

You can however:
 - Boot GPE or Opie
 - Boot developer snappshots of either one (only interesting for devs)
 - Boot any kernel-compatible OS

You can do so from SD, CF and NFS.

(Non-Hentges users: check out http://handhelds.org/scap/port.28585.png if you don't know what we are talking about.)

In case you've messed up Opie or installed some mean app which causes your Z to freeze while booting (ie: going through INIT) you can (if you know how) fix your Z manually by booting into init=/bin/sh.

And why isn't Hentges ROM listed as a subforum on this board?

I don't think the userbase is large enough to justify a subforum. It's basically OpenZaurus + tweaks, not a fork.

[CoreDump]

Thanks, Snappy.
You answered most of what I wanted to know.  Glad to hear that choosing to put home on my sd card is a GOOD THING.

I guess all these different "memories" confuse me...it's sorta like Microsoft with their Outlook, Outlook Express, Explore, Explorer, Microsoft Explorer...anyway, I have:

At the very top in System info storage tab:
 
Internal Storage / dev/root  Used (13732 kb) Available (732 kb)
Internal Memory (media/ram) Used (1245 kb) available (22552 kb)
Sd card (/media/card) Used (110309 kb) Available (130836 KB)
Sd card (home/root)  Used (110309 kb) Available (241145 kb)

I seem to recall that when I had used the 64-0 flash that I STILL had very little /dev/root space available.  Is this a bad situation or does it not matter?
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It's actually quite easy once you "get" it  

Collie ships with 16MB of flash storage only usable for storing stuff.
It then has 64MB of RAM (RAM is in RAM in any normal PC)

Parts of the 64MB of RAM can be used for additional storage.
A 32/32 kernel would give you 32MB of additional storage but leaves you with only
32MB of RAM.

With 40/24 you get 24MB of additional storage and have 40MB of RAM left.

Since most folks now own CF and/or SD cards it doesn't make any sense at all to use RAM for storage.
Most folks should flash the 64/0 kernel, but that's just my opinion  

I hope that cleared thing up.

[Snappy]

About the internal memory thingie, its kinda like the way memory is shared between storage and for running apps in wince. (Woaa) ....

In wince (think SIMpad SL4 running hpc2000 or ce.net), this allocation can be managed (altered) dynamically on runtime through the system settings in control panel. On some devices, like the Jornada 680, you cannot allocate more than 16MB for storage out of the 32MB RAM onboard.

In the case of OZ, this allocation is static, ie defined in code within the kernel. I used to think of the dynamic allocation in wince as moot, but now I think it does has its benefits.

Wonder if there is ever a chance to have Execute-In-Place capability? I think Palm allows EIP (or whatever its called), meaning that ROM code can be run directly without having it reside in DRAM. Of cos it means that it prob would be slower, but it means that there is no need to store two sets of code. Or is it the case right now for OZ?

[Snappy]

CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

And CoreDump, I fully echo Tomb's words! Great work!!

On that note, I am hoping to contribute with a bit of coding. Unfortunately, the base machine I use is running XP  ... and as its for common use, I cannot just put linux on it, or dual boot. I am trying out colinux, but its mounting of existing partitions is really tricky ...  

I installed cygwin before to code for Palm using PRCTools ... should be ok to code for OZ using cygwin right? Can you point me to some links? Thx!

[CoreDump]

CoreDump,

I want to thank you again for all your hard work.  This ROM is awesome.

And CoreDump, I fully echo Tomb's words! Great work!!

On that note, I am hoping to contribute with a bit of coding. Unfortunately, the base machine I use is running XP  ... and as its for common use, I cannot just put linux on it, or dual boot. I am trying out colinux, but its mounting of existing partitions is really tricky ...  

I installed cygwin before to code for Palm using PRCTools ... should be ok to code for OZ using cygwin right? Can you point me to some links? Thx!
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openembedded.org has all documents needed to get started. I highly doubt that it will work on cgywin though  

[Snappy]

Thanks! I'll look into it and see if colinux works out ...  ... or can I code in Z itself? With a belkin universal keyboard of cos!

SL5500 + Buffalo CF WLAN + SanDisk 256MB SD
OZ 3.5.4pre / Opie 1.2.0 -> hentges.net

SL-C1000
OZ 3.5.4pre / Opie 1.2.0

3.5.4pre!! ... oooh

EDIT: Hmmm ... actually, I was referring more to writing apps to run on OZ, than coding for OZ itself. I think I'll start small with the apps first ... is that link still where I should head to?

[niv]

didnt see it reported so:
Hi,
I just installed the current cardfs of Hentges website. seems to work fine of the SD. I followed the procedure to install SanDisk ConnectPlus.
1. Installed http://www.bentzon.net/acb/sandisk-files/h....3.7-r0_arm.ipk
2. Put pm010101.hex and rf010704.hex at /etc/pcmcia/firmware
3. put the script at /etc/pcmcia/conf_cp128
4. edit the  /etc/pcmcia/network script and add the relevent lines

the green light blinks but - doesn't light up

This used to work on 3.5.3

Any clues?
Niv

[koen]

didnt see it reported so:
Hi,
I just installed the current cardfs of Hentges website. seems to work fine of the SD. I followed the procedure to install SanDisk ConnectPlus.
1. Installed http://www.bentzon.net/acb/sandisk-files/h....3.7-r0_arm.ipk
2. Put pm010101.hex and rf010704.hex at /etc/pcmcia/firmware
3. put the script at /etc/pcmcia/conf_cp128
4. edit the  /etc/pcmcia/network script and add the relevent lines

the green light blinks but - doesn't light up

This used to work on 3.5.3

Any clues?
Niv
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isn't it easier to ipkg install prism3-support? That way you avoid using 3rd party stuff.

[offroadgeek]

has anyone noticed a small problem with gaim on this release...  gaim launches fine and everything, it's when I try to /msg nickerv or /join  channel I get an error each time:

Code: [Select]

NickServ: (notice) This nickname is owned by someone else
NickServ: (notice) If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY

offroadgeek: /join #zaurus
NickServ: (notice) Unknown command [/join]
offroadgeek: /msg nickserv identify
NickServ: (notice) Unknown command [/msg]

[tombraider]

didnt see it reported so:
Hi,
I just installed the current cardfs of Hentges website. seems to work fine of the SD. I followed the procedure to install SanDisk ConnectPlus.
1. Installed http://www.bentzon.net/acb/sandisk-files/h....3.7-r0_arm.ipk
2. Put pm010101.hex and rf010704.hex at /etc/pcmcia/firmware
3. put the script at /etc/pcmcia/conf_cp128
4. edit the  /etc/pcmcia/network script and add the relevent lines

the green light blinks but - doesn't light up

This used to work on 3.5.3

Any clues?
Niv
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niv:

I'm pretty much Ms. Clueless but I have been able each time to get the ConnectPlus card working by installing these ipks, which I place somewhere on my sd card:
hostap-utils_0.3.7-r0_arm.ipk
prism3-firmware_1.8.3-r2_arm.ipk
prism3-support_1.0.0-r0_arm.ipk

I've never had to modify any files at all.  Just the installation of those 3 ipks and I have good connection.  Now I do NOT have the use of the memory card part of it,  but since I only paid $20 for it and it's tinier than my Belkin card and doesn't block the stylus,  I'm happy.