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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2005, 05:04:49 pm »
Okay - didn't think i would startup a big "flamewar" on this one :-)

First off - Omro i agree with some of your thoughts - but couldn't we just, when we finishing the neverending RC release flood, post a thread "where would you like to see the pdaXrom go next?" thread? Or else feel free to setup a comittee - we would always like input and ideas and maybe even better if its more than one person oppion - but don't expect 100% control over the project. But often we can see if something is needed badly based on replys in the forum. We also always look at the bugreporting system on the site which also can be used for feature requests.

Secondly nobody is always right or always wrong. Most of the default included stuff in the current pdaXrom is what Sash and I has decided would be a "good start package". And I agree with Omro that the regular user can't be expected to be compiling programs. We expect people to find the compiled in the feeds which should be growing soon when the new website is ready. Sash and I often have small ICQ sessions where we discuss what we would like next and I often find myself being the boss and telling Sash what to concentrate on - else he will often try and build new smarter stuff than fixing bugs :-). Its a kind of agreement we have. Im not much of a programmer myself - more the webguy/public relations/gui-prefs coding/end user stuff guy/project manager.

Speaking of the new website it might be slightly delayed (1-2 days) due to some personal problems but it will be great (the website that is, not my personal problems). ;-)
 
Regarding the money donations - if you read the statement by Sash you will see its not a permanment problem - it just until i get my money situation sorted, then i can return to paying the gap between the donations/banners and the $500 a month for Sash but hey it would help if the gap was only $50 or something. Sometimes its hard to explain people why im spending like $100-400 a month on a guy i have never met ;-) And btw. none of the money donated goes to me(Laze) its entirely for Sash - and furthermore he works like 10-16 hours a day on the project and it pays all his expenses. Yes some would think its strange that we have to pay for his living/rent etc. instead of something like hardware or beer - but basically he just needs a root over his head, food and internet.

In short: We are all friends and have common passions, Zaurus/pdaXrom

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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2005, 05:56:24 pm »
Great post Laze.

Sorry to hear about your personal things, I hope they all clear themselves up in favourable way.

I don't think it was a flame war, I think it was people having a healthy discussion!

Plus - guess what? No matter what we all think about funding. The one unanimous thing everyone agrees on...

pdaXrom is awesome!!!
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« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2005, 04:50:13 pm »
I'm thinking about taking on a little work on the side, myself ...

I will continue to donate any time it's needed, as long as I have the
financial ability to do so.  I could also do a monthly contribution, but
it wouldn't be as large as single donations, etc.  Like Sash, I would
have to explain to the wife why I'm giving money, monthly, to
someone who I've never met -- but, the amount isn't the issue, it's
the principle.  I know the principle is sound, I just have to get that
point across :->

Additionally, I also support bounties, because I'm lazy and I'd rather
pay Sash to find a bug to compile something for me than do it myself.
For instance, I'll pay $100 for qt 4.x (latest) compiled for 10.4. (this is,
of course, on top of other donations, etc).  I don't know if compiling
Qt4 is difficult -- or is easy, but would just take a while with a simple
./configure and gmake ...

I do not think a steering committee is best -- but I do support a
suggestions thread after each release -- for ideas for the next release.
This is same idea as the bug thread, etc -- although I do think the
bug thread should just post links to a bug page on the dev site, etc.

Anyway, keep up the good work and, as always, you have my support.

Scott

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« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2005, 05:57:14 pm »
LMAO
 Maybe we need to set up some kind of "married guy's pdaxrom support service" that takes fairly small amounts through paypal and masquerades as some kind of spousally comprehensible expense.... like term life insurance, or something
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« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2005, 11:56:04 pm »
Sorry I missed this thread until now...  I've just donated $50 and will do so each month going forward.  I'm hoping to be able to increase that soon, but we've been living off of one income since moving to Minnesota.

Keep up the great work guys!

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« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2005, 12:00:15 pm »
lol, funny how everyone thought my committee idea was more sinister than it was. Just was a way to get more user-oriented input into the rom or a version of the rom. Oh well, was just a thought! lol

Am glad the discussion has opened up the thought of more user related feedback at least :-)

If people are interested in a bounty system, which it seems some are. How would that get set up?
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« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2005, 06:10:41 pm »
The bounty system will be in the new setup and will be a part of the new bug reporting system. So you can donate to a specific bug being fixed.
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« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2005, 07:45:50 pm »
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The bounty system will be in the new setup and will be a part of the new bug reporting system. So you can donate to a specific bug being fixed.
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Could we please also have a bounty system where we donate for specific apps being compiled for those of us unable to compile our own? That would be awesome too :-)
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« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2005, 01:20:52 pm »
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The bounty system will be in the new setup and will be a part of the new bug reporting system. So you can donate to a specific bug being fixed.
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Could we please also have a bounty system where we donate for specific apps being compiled for those of us unable to compile our own? That would be awesome too :-)
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omro --

I agree... as long as the bounty goes to pdaXrom and not the person who does the compiling.
This would also be a decent way for people to help to contribute -- to compile code for others
that, in turn, leads to a bounty for pdaXrom.

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« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2005, 02:02:14 pm »
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The bounty system will be in the new setup and will be a part of the new bug reporting system. So you can donate to a specific bug being fixed.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=92753\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Could we please also have a bounty system where we donate for specific apps being compiled for those of us unable to compile our own? That would be awesome too :-)
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omro --

I agree... as long as the bounty goes to pdaXrom and not the person who does the compiling.
This would also be a decent way for people to help to contribute -- to compile code for others
that, in turn, leads to a bounty for pdaXrom.

Scott
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That's quite a cool idea, never thought of that. Though would it not be fair to offer a percentage to the person who compiled the app, as a thank you? They could always choose to resubmit that percentage back to the development of pdaXrom if they were so community inclined.
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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2005, 01:32:00 am »
i just ask myself...
the person who can compile for example Open Office, and for this who take a month of work
to thanks this person you would like to pay the pdaxrom team? it's not very logic

i think if a dev take his time to compile your app, the money must come to him, and it is his choice to give this money to the pdaxrom team

and also if i put a bounty on an application, i want to pay the person who has make the work, and noone other, if i want to give money to the team i simply donate.

do not forget that compiling an application is not always so simple that type 3 commands, and if you make some bounty this work must be rewarded

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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2005, 02:01:49 am »
do a split based on the difficulty of the program and acknowledgement that maintenance of the rom is needed.
in this case omro being the initiator here, he would negotiate a split and collect pledges.
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« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2005, 06:31:20 am »
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do a split based on the difficulty of the program and acknowledgement that maintenance of the rom is needed.
in this case omro being the initiator here, he would negotiate a split and collect pledges.
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Either that or perhaps have the bounty system work in that pdaXrom collects the bounty money and when it gets paid out, they keep a fixed percentage like a processing fee?
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« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2005, 03:28:26 am »
arg... you guys are too slow

i just donated the $30 paypal i had to Ubuntu Forums and for getting my school a new router

i'll try and remember next time i have some paypal credit

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« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2005, 12:20:40 am »
Well,  I will be happy to donate, if I see improvements being made
in regard to the operation of pdaXrom on the SL-6000, and probably
the 5500 as well.  I have been a 5500 user until a few days ago
when I aquired a 6000.  I have tried many ROMs, and PocketWorkstation
various times, but consider pdaXrom to be the best for my needs, being
a professional OS developer, and JAVA VM/J2SE/J2ME implementor.

BUT, currently there are many outstanding issues I've noticed in
the RC10 I am trying.  If I see improvments being made available
over time, you can consider me a donator.

Actually, I'll kick in a donation right now.  

BTW, some annoying issues for me at moment:
  wallpaper orientation wrong in 480x640 mode (try a 480x640  image)
  possible problems with X middle and right button assigning to home/email
     (holding one of them causes many processes to start), and F11 and other
      function keys in vxkbd do not seem to work for me
  unable to use power button to suspend
  no GNU emacs with X support in feed  
  incomplete 5500 feed

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[UPDATE - Darn, I was expecting my donation to apear right away on the site,
 as it was an unusual amount]
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