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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2006, 05:37:35 pm »
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Yeah, I also like the look and feel of GPE. Looks very nice.

Even though, on my c750 I still notice that screen flickering sometimes .... any hints to solve it?
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[a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8541]This thread about screen flickering[/url] may help you.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2006, 09:13:47 pm »
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Can I take the occassion to ask if anyone would explain what the differences between OpenZaurus and pdaXrom are?

I've seen the feed features an X11 section and you use GPE, so is it basically like pdaXrom in the sense that you run X apps with no prob?
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The benefit is that things in OZ are designed to work on a PDA where as things in pdaXrom are just crosscompiled. If you do want to run X app which have not been adapted for a PDA, you may have more luck with pdaXrom, it's like a linux notebook.

I hate to quote my own work but I wrote a [a href=\"https://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Distributions]wiki page[/url] on this question.

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2006, 11:39:52 pm »
Yes!  gpe is a really nice pda environment (and getting noticeably better).

I just flashed 3.4.5 on my 6k.  nice stuuf new browser is way cool. (I'll still need firefox on as a second, though)  

The network setup gui works!

but.... is there a simple 1-button "connect" and "disconnect" sort of thing available?  My wife uses the 6k a lot, and "su" "/sbin/ifup wlan0" is gonna be a problem for her.

Still, nice job guys! It is good to see a new and solid OZ.
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2006, 02:32:03 am »
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The biggest difference is that on OZ 'ipkg install <something>' just works, you don't have to spend days to find out what dependencies that package needs.

Well, that's not quite right but anyway, for me main differences are:

- OZ is maintained in a more formal way by more people with a more open  and better organization and a thus is more likely to be the distribution that will be here longer (ie if sashz is getting bored by pdaxrom.....)
 
- OZ  provides (both opie and gpe) a uniform and complete desktop environement, while pdaxrom is more a compilation of existing apps and hacks.  This requires a LOT of work, but a lot of work has been done on gpe, 3.5.3 was clearly of first port, 3.5.4 is working nicely and it's great to be able to use an application so set the fonts for all the system for instance.

Why do I use pdaxrom then? well pdaxrom was here before oz/gpe, and was arguably working better than the first oz/gpe releases, native and cross compilation was easier to get started with pdaxrom (the nice sdks, it might still be the case for the native sdk you just drop the sdk in the home directory and you're ready to compile)

Will I start to use OZ instead of pdaxrom? I don't know, but I'll be sure to check and try  everything that's available and to  use the one that suits me (of course as I have more inner knowledge of how pdaxrom works and as it's allready doing what I want, I might not find enough energy to switch)

I think that's great that we have choices and  the possibility to try everything for free, just like I like the possibility to try and choose betwenn  debian, mandriva, ubuntu, suse, gentoo..you name it..

I know that not everybody has time to try and decide by himself and we just want to know "what's the best" but there is no answer to this question because what we would like to know is "what's the best for me", hopefully with kexec and booting from a card it will more easier to try new things without breaking the previous installs.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2006, 03:39:25 am »
Hey it runs great on my 5600!  But I can't connect to wireless networks through wellenreiter any more?!?  I thought it used to do that.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2006, 04:09:47 am »
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Can I take the occassion to ask if anyone would explain what the differences between OpenZaurus and pdaXrom are?

I've seen the feed features an X11 section and you use GPE, so is it basically like pdaXrom in the sense that you run X apps with no prob?
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The benefit is that things in OZ are designed to work on a PDA where as things in pdaXrom are just crosscompiled. If you do want to run X app which have not been adapted for a PDA, you may have more luck with pdaXrom, it's like a linux notebook.
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That's not true. OE (and thus OZ) has many 'unadapted' X apps like gimp, inkscape, abiword, gnumeric, firefox, enlightenment, xfce, gnuplot, gnome etc. If you want to install an extra X app, you just have to ask one of the OZ people to put it in the feeds, we do a lot of stuff on request


(As a side note: Previously a lot of people went like "Foo is missing, OZ sucks" before even asking for it to included, I'm glad that has changed)
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2006, 04:46:42 am »
when i tried installing the enlightment image, after reboot I was having a lot of 'no more space' for the startup scripts when creating configuration files and so.

gpe image installed without problems.

what should be the root partition size?

even i know screen flickering can be solved by tunning some parameters, how is it that when I run OZ I see the flickering and, without modifying anything apart from flashing, cacko runs OK?

thanks all for the great environment. I'm really looking forward to see my c750 running e17!!
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2006, 06:12:46 am »
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BTW Hrw I am jumping through all the hoops to get a moneybookers account for the sole reason to donate money to you. Paypal may not be the best but it was easier to give Mickey money since I already had paypal.

Paypal does not support Poland - sorry.

I can create paypal account but it will be one way - I could send money via paypal but cannot get via paypal so I decided to not use it at all.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2006, 06:47:30 am »
I flashed my Collie yesterday with the OPIE image. Worked like a charm. I had a brief (and not so good) experience with altboot on the previous RC (when it wasn't integrated), but now it's very easy to use it. The only thing that could be, IMHO, improved is the way previous configuration is remembered : altboot uses the previous choice (Normal, No GUI, SD or CF) by default, but it still asks for the rootfs image to use when several are available on - say - the SD card. Since it's easy to rename the unwanted images, it is not really blocking, though.

The feed is much easier to browse now, and I need no more "-force-depends" to install QT-based packages. I'm also glad to see updated things like mplayer.

Suspending/resuming works much better, now, and the only way I managed to freeze the Z was to keep the On/Off key pressed for more than ten seconds in a row.

Synchronisation between KDE and OPIE works nice, too.

All in one, this is by far the best OZ release, both in features and quality, I ever used. I'm more and more eager to test the SDK and contribute... Thanks for all, OZ devs!

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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2006, 08:45:31 am »
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BTW Hrw I am jumping through all the hoops to get a moneybookers account for the sole reason to donate money to you. Paypal may not be the best but it was easier to give Mickey money since I already had paypal.

Paypal does not support Poland - sorry.

I can create paypal account but it will be one way - I could send money via paypal but cannot get via paypal so I decided to not use it at all.
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That's ok like I said it is worth it keep up the great work and just let me know when spitz is supported so I can join in the fun and 2.6 goodness.  
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2006, 11:44:35 am »
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19 17:34 <RP> Yay. 3.5.4.1 opie works on spitz including alsa sound nearly out the box :)
19 17:34 <RP> well, it does work out the box now I fixed udev...
19 17:37 <RP> This is beautiful :)
19 17:37 <hrw|food> cool
19 17:39 <mickeyl> excellent! good job

So expect test images during next week ;)
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2006, 05:04:03 am »
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Yes!  gpe is a really nice pda environment (and getting noticeably better).

I just flashed 3.4.5 on my 6k.  nice stuuf new browser is way cool. (I'll still need firefox on as a second, though) 

The network setup gui works!

but.... is there a simple 1-button "connect" and "disconnect" sort of thing available?  My wife uses the 6k a lot, and "su" "/sbin/ifup wlan0" is gonna be a problem for her.

Still, nice job guys! It is good to see a new and solid OZ.
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This is what I want to know too.

I've not tried OZ yet as I have been awaiting 3.4.5.1 for spitz- soon as it gets released (within the next week!?) I'll flash it. One of my dads main uses of his Z is for browsing the web- he's not very techy and I don't think he'd be impressed with having to drop down to a shell and enter a few commands to connect/disconnect from wifi. What browser does GPE use by default? Can GPE be set up to start a graphical network connection tool when you open/close a browser?

Will I still be able to have a FAT32 partition that automatically gets mounted as a USB disc?

Is there a page showing all the packages in 3.5.4.x?

Congratulations to all involved in getting this latest release out- sounds like a very impressive feat!
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2006, 07:17:30 am »
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2006, 08:12:15 am »
release excitement must've overcame me  

I forgot to ask

will I be able to get bvdd accellerated mplayer under 3.5.4.1 on a spitz under GPE

???
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2006, 10:46:04 am »
Oops, I've got a problem with this installation: every reboot resets time to 13 Mar 06 00:32.
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I've tried to boot from root and from sd card with the same result.
I didn't have such problems with previous installs (including test5).
What can I do with this problem?
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