Author Topic: Build Your Own Linux Powered Pda (Read 214222 times)

Da_Blitz · « **Reply #255 on:** July 10, 2006, 12:55:51 pm »

Just fixed the settings on the wiki: it was a foot meets cable problem that went unoticed for awhile

i agree, after using 2 19" screens for awhile, going back to 1 screen is not fun

the 4" is a diagonal mesurement. if you need a larger screen then thats what the video out is for

at the moment i am looking into a2dp supoort for the Z, i belive its at a workable state now. just testing to make sure (can finally say goodbuy to that dongle) after thats done and i have the server migrated its time to look at the chipsets used and needed in more detail and pouring over datasheets (its what i live for) so expect to hear some things soon

btw the news page is still broken and i wont try and fix it till after the migrations, however the permisions on the website are now working properly so i can password protect sites if needed (like my own profile). if i get board somtime this week ill ad more info and do a bit of a reshufflue

did i mention i found a couple of HDMI chips that dont need drivers? (honstly cant remeber)

BarryW · « **Reply #256 on:** July 10, 2006, 01:04:02 pm »

I actually found the Newton screen size to be about perfect. I just wish it had a better resolution! I don't carry my Z in a pocket anyway. I've killed more pda's than I'd like to count doing that. I don't mind having a "utility belt" look with a pouch. I really liked the 6000 screen size, just a tad bigger than my 3100. I've not read over the whole thread in a while, is the 6000 size what you guys are shooting for?

Da_Blitz · « **Reply #257 on:** July 10, 2006, 01:32:01 pm »

i dont belive we have finalised the size in yet. but so far its been 5500/c3000 size.

must get a summary of this thread up (anyone have anyidea how many words have been written so far)

Ferret-Simpson · « **Reply #258 on:** July 10, 2006, 02:54:55 pm »

Yes, a 4@ screen is the same size as the 6000. . That's what we're trying to get, basically a 6000 screen. I keep my PDA's in my pockets all the time, they're fine. You didn't take the flip up cover off did you?

As far as otherwise casing goes, when I'm not playing music, the Z stays in an Otterbox Armor2600. Yeah. Big, beefy, crushproof, waterproof, floating. When I get a PP, Mine'll probably stay in that box almost 24/7, and I'll play music over Bluetooth. After all, my only reason for not keeping the Z in a box all the time I'm not typing, is that I can't get the cables out.

You can hardly say that a Z screen is too small to be useless. I haven't turned my desktop on for a week, just been using my 5600.

I think that the 4" 640x480 is the way to go with Currentgen devices. Until AR systems are technologically and socially viable, trying to increase the size causes problems.

On a 1" screen? I read books. . . Play Gameboy games. . . look at images (Sadly in B/W). . . Look at the time (It's a WATCH after all.). . . And just generally manage my life.

Chipsets. . I'm guessing you mean apart from the RXF300 for the MXC300. . . right?

Da_Blitz · « **Reply #259 on:** July 11, 2006, 02:18:33 am »

found a link on youtube (first time ive used it) that seems to show off somthing simmilar to the trackball we have in our design (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdyMEBYNCc...elated&search=) changes color and is round

i dont actually know much about the sidekick or what it has hardware wise as i have never seen one here in AUS but would anyone care to shed some lite if thats what it is or not

shows some good action shots for using the leds as visual feedback but i dont like that entire switchbalde screen desicn, i would prefer the way the Z does it (im suprised they do it that way instead af a simpiler slider design)

still like the shape but thats just me. it is intresting to note where they put things such as the usb ports. it all seems to be very well thoght out in terms of placment which brings up a couple of erginomic and racticle issues we will have to think about

ie whats its main use
do we put headone sockets on the side (anoying while gaming but more than tolerable) or on the back (pocket nightmare for those of you with corded headphones
placment of all the ports and so on

Ferret-Simpson · « **Reply #260 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:38:07 am »

I'm going to love running GPE Sysinfo on this and getting a benchmark.

But then, I'm also going to love playing ZPSX on this, too.

DS3 controller over the USB port, Final Fantasy 4,5,6,7,8,9.

OH yeah. That'll be fun.

BarryW · « **Reply #261 on:** July 11, 2006, 12:11:17 pm »

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Yes, a 4@ screen is the same size as the 6000. . That's what we're trying to get, basically a 6000 screen. I keep my PDA's in my pockets all the time, they're fine. You didn't take the flip up cover off did you?

No, but they were pocket pc's without the hard screen cover, though one was an older Sharp clamshell that I carried in my cargo pocket of my bdu's. All of them got broken screens, either by getting flexed or banged into. That's why I started using the pouches. They ride up higher on my body and the handhelds stay positioned screen in. If anything gets banged into it's going to be the back/bottom. Hopefully the one you guys are talking about making will end up being made of metal and not some type of composite. I can fix dents, once a composite cracks though, it's done.

Ferret-Simpson · « **Reply #262 on:** July 11, 2006, 01:30:54 pm »

Can't fix a dent when it shortcircuits the mobo.

Carbonfibre is lighter, stronger, and less likely to break than metal. Agreed, it's easier to fix metal, for the same reason that it's easier to dent it.

My Zaurus is made of plastic, and has been fine. Same goes for my mobile phones, my PDAwatch, my SD/SMC/MS cards, spare batteries, cad readers. What else do YOU keep in your pockets to break the things?

This is hardly going o be a small PDA. 4" screen (Yes, fixed my keyboard mapping) quite thick, highly dense, etc etc, we have to cut corners somewhere if we're going to be able to lift the thing without three months weight traning. And that's not an exagerreation, I mean lift it and hold it continuously at an angle for a long period of time. I can do that with my 5600, but I wouldn't be able to if it was metal cased.

BarryW · « **Reply #263 on:** July 11, 2006, 02:41:15 pm »

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Can't fix a dent when it shortcircuits the mobo.

Carbonfibre is lighter, stronger, and less likely to break than metal. Agreed, it's easier to fix metal, for the same reason that it's easier to dent it.

My Zaurus is made of plastic, and has been fine. Same goes for my mobile phones, my PDAwatch, my SD/SMC/MS cards, spare batteries, cad readers. What else do YOU keep in your pockets to break the things?

This is hardly going o be a small PDA. 4" screen (Yes, fixed my keyboard mapping) quite thick, highly dense, etc etc, we have to cut corners somewhere if we're going to be able to lift the thing without three months weight traning. And that's not an exagerreation, I mean lift it and hold it continuously at an angle for a long period of time. I can do that with my 5600, but I wouldn't be able to if it was metal cased.
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I work with aluminum laptops everyday. They get banged up dented, scratched, and dropped on a regular basis. Never had one short the logic board. They have a plastic film inside to prevent that. I think it would be easier and cheaper to go with metal. It would also help get rid of heat better. With all the doodads you guys are talking about cramming in there you're going to need the heatsink.

adf · « **Reply #264 on:** July 11, 2006, 02:47:11 pm »

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Can't fix a dent when it shortcircuits the mobo.

Carbonfibre is lighter, stronger, and less likely to break than metal. Agreed, it's easier to fix metal, for the same reason that it's easier to dent it.

My Zaurus is made of plastic, and has been fine. Same goes for my mobile phones, my PDAwatch, my SD/SMC/MS cards, spare batteries, cad readers. What else do YOU keep in your pockets to break the things?

This is hardly going o be a small PDA. 4" screen (Yes, fixed my keyboard mapping) quite thick, highly dense, etc etc, we have to cut corners somewhere if we're going to be able to lift the thing without three months weight traning. And that's not an exagerreation, I mean lift it and hold it continuously at an angle for a long period of time. I can do that with my 5600, but I wouldn't be able to if it was metal cased.
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I work with aluminum laptops everyday. They get banged up dented, scratched, and dropped on a regular basis. Never had one short the logic board. They have a plastic film inside to prevent that. I think it would be easier and cheaper to go with metal. It would also help get rid of heat better. With all the doodads you guys are talking about cramming in there you're going to need the heatsink.
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very good idea.

Ferret-Simpson · « **Reply #265 on:** July 11, 2006, 03:32:13 pm »

Still the weight problem. . .

xamindar · « **Reply #266 on:** July 11, 2006, 03:47:54 pm »

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Still the weight problem. . .
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What weight problem? I like my portable electronics to be somewhat heavy. Besides, aluminium isn't that heavy.

adf · « **Reply #267 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:07:24 pm »

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Still the weight problem. . .
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is an aluminum case actually noticeably heavier than a composit one?

speculatrix · « **Reply #268 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:22:26 pm »

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I think it would be easier and cheaper to go with metal. It would also help get rid of heat better. With all the doodads you guys are talking about cramming in there you're going to need the heatsink.
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no, cooling won't be an issue at all - mind you, carrying round the tank of liquid nitrogen to cool the processor down so's we can overclock it to play best quality HDTV 1080p will be a bit of a nuisance

speculatrix · « **Reply #269 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:23:23 pm »

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What weight problem? I like my portable electronics to be somewhat heavy. Besides, aluminium isn't that heavy.
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we'll make the case airtight and fill with Helium to make it lighter for the wimps, shall we?

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