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« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2006, 05:15:36 pm »
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Well he didnt create uboot... he decided to implement u-boot into his rom... U-boot fits in the same boat as Lilo... Syslinux... and Grub... just a variation of these..

And U-Boot *WILL* work with booting from alternate mediums... but it is just that no one that I know of... has configured uboot to boot from an external/internal cf... or SD... on a Z

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you are right. he didnt create it but made it work on the Z.
if only i had the skills to build uboot for the c3000....
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« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2006, 05:23:09 pm »
though back to some earlier questions....
It seems like it would make a lot more sense to  boot in maybe a distributed sort of way.  Maybe use the internal flash as a / partition and put /user and /home and /var on other media?  I admit some addiotnal mapping and driver info might have to be at the / but it seems like a kinda obvious solution.....
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« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2006, 07:21:29 pm »
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Because it is the fastest means when it comes to speed...

SD and CF are slower...

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My next question then has to be why make us go to uboot if that is the case. Especially since most of us only boot up once and then just suspend. I'm obviously missing something here. I'm sure that most of us understand that we are not using a Zaurus because of it's lightening speed. I'm just curious and wouldn't mind seeing something on booting from other than the built in flash. Thanks.

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if i remember correctly there was a post that sashz mentions that he broke his bootlloader and the only way to boot for him was to create an alternate bootloader, hence he created uboot and made all of you use it too
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It isn't that I have a big problem with how things are working at the present time, it just seems that the internal flash is small and at the present time I am having difficulty putting applications elsewhere. The 3100 has a harddrive which in reality I have never really used for anything except some limited storage. I have in the past loaded some applications to the harddrive but am having difficulty with r121. Thanks for the responses to my questions.

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« Reply #123 on: November 10, 2006, 07:39:11 pm »
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Because it is the fastest means when it comes to speed...

SD and CF are slower...

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My next question then has to be why make us go to uboot if that is the case. Especially since most of us only boot up once and then just suspend. I'm obviously missing something here. I'm sure that most of us understand that we are not using a Zaurus because of it's lightening speed. I'm just curious and wouldn't mind seeing something on booting from other than the built in flash. Thanks.

cycle_55
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if i remember correctly there was a post that sashz mentions that he broke his bootlloader and the only way to boot for him was to create an alternate bootloader, hence he created uboot and made all of you use it too
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146024\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


It isn't that I have a big problem with how things are working at the present time, it just seems that the internal flash is small and at the present time I am having difficulty putting applications elsewhere. The 3100 has a harddrive which in reality I have never really used for anything except some limited storage. I have in the past loaded some applications to the harddrive but am having difficulty with r121. Thanks for the responses to my questions.

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If you are in the mood to see how running off the HD goes, give OZ a spin.  
My impression from my last run on OZ this summer was that for possibly psychological reasons i felt a need to do something with the internal flash, but that running the system off the internal hd worked pretty well. It was certainly quicker than I had expected it to be.

Anyway, as I said, it may be a personal neurosis, but I'd really like to see a sane partition scheme that uses the flah and the hd or the flash and *some* medium in combination (without ipkg-link weirdness) that made use of the speed of the internal flash, but didn't write to it much, and made use of the size and writeability of the hd (or size and comparative disposability of a flash card).
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« Reply #124 on: November 10, 2006, 08:39:09 pm »
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Because it is the fastest means when it comes to speed...

SD and CF are slower...

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My next question then has to be why make us go to uboot if that is the case. Especially since most of us only boot up once and then just suspend. I'm obviously missing something here. I'm sure that most of us understand that we are not using a Zaurus because of it's lightening speed. I'm just curious and wouldn't mind seeing something on booting from other than the built in flash. Thanks.

cycle_55
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if i remember correctly there was a post that sashz mentions that he broke his bootlloader and the only way to boot for him was to create an alternate bootloader, hence he created uboot and made all of you use it too
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146024\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


It isn't that I have a big problem with how things are working at the present time, it just seems that the internal flash is small and at the present time I am having difficulty putting applications elsewhere. The 3100 has a harddrive which in reality I have never really used for anything except some limited storage. I have in the past loaded some applications to the harddrive but am having difficulty with r121. Thanks for the responses to my questions.

cycle_55
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If you are in the mood to see how running off the HD goes, give OZ a spin.  
My impression from my last run on OZ this summer was that for possibly psychological reasons i felt a need to do something with the internal flash, but that running the system off the internal hd worked pretty well. It was certainly quicker than I had expected it to be.

Anyway, as I said, it may be a personal neurosis, but I'd really like to see a sane partition scheme that uses the flah and the hd or the flash and *some* medium in combination (without ipkg-link weirdness) that made use of the speed of the internal flash, but didn't write to it much, and made use of the size and writeability of the hd (or size and comparative disposability of a flash card).
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you have said this alot better than I could have and I agree with you totally. My problem most of the time is that my knowledge of linux is just barely adequate to do what I need to do. I'll have a look at OZ and will let you know. Thanks.

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« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2006, 12:14:56 am »
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Because it is the fastest means when it comes to speed...

SD and CF are slower...

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My next question then has to be why make us go to uboot if that is the case. Especially since most of us only boot up once and then just suspend. I'm obviously missing something here. I'm sure that most of us understand that we are not using a Zaurus because of it's lightening speed. I'm just curious and wouldn't mind seeing something on booting from other than the built in flash. Thanks.

cycle_55
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if i remember correctly there was a post that sashz mentions that he broke his bootlloader and the only way to boot for him was to create an alternate bootloader, hence he created uboot and made all of you use it too
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146024\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]


It isn't that I have a big problem with how things are working at the present time, it just seems that the internal flash is small and at the present time I am having difficulty putting applications elsewhere. The 3100 has a harddrive which in reality I have never really used for anything except some limited storage. I have in the past loaded some applications to the harddrive but am having difficulty with r121. Thanks for the responses to my questions.

cycle_55
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If you are in the mood to see how running off the HD goes, give OZ a spin.  
My impression from my last run on OZ this summer was that for possibly psychological reasons i felt a need to do something with the internal flash, but that running the system off the internal hd worked pretty well. It was certainly quicker than I had expected it to be.

Anyway, as I said, it may be a personal neurosis, but I'd really like to see a sane partition scheme that uses the flah and the hd or the flash and *some* medium in combination (without ipkg-link weirdness) that made use of the speed of the internal flash, but didn't write to it much, and made use of the size and writeability of the hd (or size and comparative disposability of a flash card).
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Well isn't this interesting....installed OZ gpe and everything I plug into my Z now works without any fiddling and I'm booting off the microdrive. Still some minor difficulties with partitions 2 and 3 but so far so good. I hadn't tried any other rom except pdaxrom to this point. Thanks.

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« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2006, 01:31:22 am »
welcome.

Any ideas on meaningful partition schemes??
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« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2006, 02:58:54 pm »
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Does anybody try 4Gb SD with 1.1.0r121?
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Just installed r121.  I noticed the automounter didn't connect to the 4Gb SD card however when I looked at

#dmesg

it noticed the mmcblk0

so I mounted it to /mnt/card and was successful.  

I did jump the gun though  .... As soon as I loaded the ROM I installed the SD > 1G IPK from cresho.  Needless to say it works great.  
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« Reply #128 on: November 15, 2006, 03:10:15 pm »
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Does anybody try 4Gb SD with 1.1.0r121?
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Just installed r121.  I noticed the automounter didn't connect to the 4Gb SD card however when I looked at

#dmesg

it noticed the mmcblk0

so I mounted it to /mnt/card and was successful.  

I did jump the gun though  .... As soon as I loaded the ROM I installed the SD > 1G IPK from cresho.  Needless to say it works great.  
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it had nothing to do with THAT driver since it is a kernel model fo 2.4.20
r121 uses 2.6.x kernel which has build in support for large sd cards.
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« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2006, 03:16:14 pm »
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Just tried the zgcc.img from the r121 feed and got this upon mounting:
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mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage, or too many mounted file systems
Pass -t cramfs to mount doesn't help.
The older file in the Beta4 feed is working.
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it seems to be a squashfs

I have a script doing :
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losetup /dev/loop0 /home/root/zgcc-3.4.6.img
mount /dev/loop0 /opt/native/arm/3.4.6-xscale-softvfp -t squashfs

and I could compile the latest xarchiver natively.

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« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2006, 03:17:42 pm »
Any news or tests with bluetooth ?

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« Reply #131 on: November 16, 2006, 10:05:33 pm »
decided to try r121
 instructions are fine, etc.

1st problem:
accidentally tapped the screen during calibration--no recalibrate giu app?

how do I recalibrate (actually I am going to reflash, but this sort of thing maybe should be easy?)
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« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2006, 10:37:22 pm »
quick question (may have been answered many time before, anyway...): what's preventing Tosa rom to advance beyond beta1?
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« Reply #133 on: November 16, 2006, 10:39:52 pm »
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decided to try r121
 instructions are fine, etc.

1st problem:
accidentally tapped the screen during calibration--no recalibrate giu app?

how do I recalibrate (actually I am going to reflash, but this sort of thing maybe should be easy?)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146508\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

there is a file called pointercal under /etc
remove it and next time you boot up, it will make you to recalibrate
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Netgear MA701 CF, SanDisk ConnectPlus CF, Socket Bluetooth CF, 4GB Kingston CF,  4GB pqi SD, 4GB ChoiceOnly SD, 2GB SanDisk SD USB Plus, 1GB SanDisk USB Plus, 1GB Transcend SD, 2GB SanDisk MicroSD with SD adaptor, Piel Frama Leather Case, GoldX 5-in-1 USB cable, USB hub, USB mouse, USB keyboard, USB ethernet, USB HDD, many other USB accessories...
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« Reply #134 on: November 16, 2006, 10:52:37 pm »
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decided to try r121
 instructions are fine, etc.

1st problem:
accidentally tapped the screen during calibration--no recalibrate giu app?

how do I recalibrate (actually I am going to reflash, but this sort of thing maybe should be easy?)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146508\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

there is a file called pointercal under /etc
remove it and next time you boot up, it will make you to recalibrate
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thanks... I was pretty sure there was something along those lines...but reflashing seemed quicker than poking around.

a side note....  you (I think) mentioned that we have uboot largely because sashz nuked his bootloader?  I seemed to have done something along those lines playing with swapd (latest) that I compiled on Beta3. It caused some weird hangups and then just shut me out of the Z...lost diagnostics after trying Zaurus test--no power light, just a blinking hd light if I tried D&M.  Uboot suddenly made life a whole lot easier
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**6000l  Tetsuized Sharprom, installed on internal flash only 1G sd, 2G cf