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« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2007, 01:20:30 am »
I'm going off topic.
If QT3 apps run in pdaxrom, how does one know if an app is QT3? and if it will run in pdaxrom?
And where do you find such apps?
Also, I noticed the QT Configuration in pdaxii13-akita. Is this used to configure QT3 apps?
So in other words, absolutely none of the applications for Sharp/Cacko will run in pdaxrom, what QT3 apps work in pdaxrom and are they any better than their Sharp/Cacko counterparts.
Last question, what is the point of running QT3 apps on pdaxrom? Are these apps better than a pdaxrom counterpart?
 Was that too many questions.  

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« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2007, 01:54:45 am »
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I'm going off topic.
If QT3 apps run in pdaxrom, how does one know if an app is QT3? and if it will run in pdaxrom?
And where do you find such apps?
Also, I noticed the QT Configuration in pdaxii13-akita. Is this used to configure QT3 apps?
So in other words, absolutely none of the applications for Sharp/Cacko will run in pdaxrom, what QT3 apps work in pdaxrom and are they any better than their Sharp/Cacko counterparts.
Last question, what is the point of running QT3 apps on pdaxrom? Are these apps better than a pdaxrom counterpart?
 Was that too many questions.   

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There is a BIG difference between QT and QT/E. Sharp/Cacko/OPIE are all based on some version of QT/E, Sharp/Cacko is based on the most ancient one of course, something 1.6.x whereas OPIE is based on 2.x.x
QT on the other hand is completely different. KDE3 is partially build upon QT3. khdrecord which I compiled for example is a QT3 app, as well as the Package Manager in pdaXrom and JustReader, TuxCards, etc...
and yes, QT config is used to configure QT apps
Sharp/Cacko apps are QT/E apps, they will not run in pdaXrom for many other reasons as well...

apps need to use some library to draw their windows, widgets, etc.. GTK2 (GTK+)  is one commonly used set of library, but there are many more like GPE, QT, WX, TK, etc.....
Using just one set has its advantages, the look and feel is common across all applications and there is less memory requirements since they all load and share the same libraries which is what OZ/GPE is doing, ie they only use GPE libraries and thus some apps that are based on other libraries are not available...
pdaXrom on the other hand has support for many different libraries and thus sometimes the load speed of the applications suffers from this because the Z has to switch between these libraries. Most apps in pdaXrom are GTK+ based, although some are QT based and some are WX based. You can even use GPE apps in pdaXrom.
As mentioned before, having all these different libs available also has its disadvantages, besides slightly slower load speed when switching between those kinds of apps, there is also the look and feel issue. for example, look and feel for QT and GTK2 apps are configured independantly. The good thing of course, there is more apps available, more choice, more options, ....but this is not for everyone. some people love to be limited or have no choice at all because then they don't need to think or make decisions....
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« Reply #137 on: February 13, 2007, 03:34:48 am »
This is a nice one :
http://autoscan.free.fr/

It runs on the Maemo, so I guess pdaX should be able to run it.

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« Reply #138 on: February 13, 2007, 01:02:43 pm »
I'm having trouble compiling the blackbox wm and bbkeys.  Any help would be appreciated.

Blackbox:

http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/Blackbox...mpilingBlackbox

bbkeys:

http://bbkeys.sourceforge.net/download.php


I can build bbkeys 0.8.6 without a lot of trouble, but that version only works with blackbox<0.7 and I can't build those versions easily.  (hangs on indirect iconv references in Unicode.cc)

I know blackbox is in the feeds, but it's not much good to me without bbkeys.  Forgive me if it's already available (under a different name/feed or something).  If so could you just point it out?
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« Reply #139 on: February 13, 2007, 04:39:42 pm »
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This is a nice one :
http://autoscan.free.fr/

It runs on the Maemo, so I guess pdaX should be able to run it.

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No good...fails before it even starts to configure with an "arcitecture "" not supported" or some such message.

I'll look into Blackbox.
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« Reply #140 on: February 14, 2007, 11:24:30 am »
Just an update. Blackbox is compiled and packaged up, but bbkeys failed with undefined references. I'll recompile Blackbox and not strip things this time or take anything out and see what happens.
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« Reply #141 on: February 14, 2007, 03:53:36 pm »
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Just an update. Blackbox is compiled and packaged up, but bbkeys failed with undefined references. I'll recompile Blackbox and not strip things this time or take anything out and see what happens.
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cool thanks.. what options did you pass to the configure script?  Bbkeys 0.9 was failing for me on undefined references to libbt.po (which is part of blackbox that the original packager left out)
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« Reply #142 on: February 14, 2007, 04:46:52 pm »
I can't totally recall at the moment, but my command was probably:

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« Reply #143 on: February 14, 2007, 04:53:24 pm »
Regarding autoscan:


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This is a nice one :
http://autoscan.free.fr/

It runs on the Maemo, so I guess pdaX should be able to run it.

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No good...fails before it even starts to configure with an "arcitecture "" not supported" or some such message.

I'll look into Blackbox.
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We could probably try to configure without any optimizations to start.  That tends to fix a lot of things for me...

I'd give a try right now, but I'm pretty swamped.  Maybe later tonight.


Regarding blackbox



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I can't totally recall at the moment, but my command was probably:

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I couldn't get this to build on pdaxii13 with meanie's updated gcc3.4.6.  I also tried on pdaxii13 with gcc3.4.6 and gcc3.4.5.    Also tried on x86 with the pdaxrom cross-compiler.  

Guess I never tried on rc121 or standard beta3 or beta1... so that's probably what I should work towards next.  Thanks for your help.  Do you think you could post your work thus far?
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« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2007, 05:42:16 pm »
I wasn't trying to optimize Autoscan.

Blackbox and BBKeys are in the New Packages thread.
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« Reply #145 on: February 14, 2007, 06:44:14 pm »
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wasn't trying to optimize Autoscan.

Blackbox and BBKeys are in the New Packages thread.
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great! thanks!  sorry about autoscan.  guess things aren't that simple.

[update] your packages seem to work great for me in beta3.  Thanks a lot CapnFish!  Looks like the rc121 compiling setup is the way to go
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« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2007, 10:08:16 am »
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This is a nice one :
http://autoscan.free.fr/

It runs on the Maemo, so I guess pdaX should be able to run it.

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No good...fails before it even starts to configure with an "arcitecture "" not supported" or some such message.

I'll look into Blackbox.
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you need to edit the configure script and change the line that is

armv4l)

to

armv4l|armv5tel)

and you also need to build net-snmp package...
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« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2007, 10:25:13 am »
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« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2007, 10:59:08 am »
I will try that.
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« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2007, 12:44:22 pm »
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