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« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2007, 12:25:31 pm »
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Maybe there is another way of installing like doing a NAND backuo/restore and copying the data directly to the CF in another linux machine...
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167657\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, if only our internal CF can be recognized and mounted by the debian kernel
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Maybe someone can ask "neil" to change the installer to make the installer skip the initial formatting of the microdrive and ask where debian has to be installed to.
I can see a way here to be able to install it on a C1000 (or even C7x0) : put install files on the first partition of a 4Gb-SD, install debian to the second partition.
Not sure there is support for +1Gb SD cards.

Only thinking out loud ...
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« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2007, 12:28:19 pm »
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tux seems to be hinting that the CF recognition issue may have to do with the failure of the SD card to properly handle the CD installation image. My 1gb SD also failed.
[Well, I suddenly remember that the same 1gb SD card failed to install Debian EABI too!]
So, perhaps ...
-- try a different and smaller SD
-- restore the CF to its original partition state as descibed in Meanie's website, and just let the Debian installer reformat & repartition it?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167659\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Tried 4 different brand SD (though all 1G). Even tried deleting all partition in emergency mode and let the installer do the job, still no joy. A bit discouraged  

EDIT: now gathering all SD from different dc and try them one by one. Hope I still have a <1G one
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 12:32:56 pm by Fatty »
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« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2007, 12:44:55 pm »
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tux seems to be hinting that the CF recognition issue may have to do with the failure of the SD card to properly handle the CD installation image. My 1gb SD also failed.
[Well, I suddenly remember that the same 1gb SD card failed to install Debian EABI too!]
So, perhaps ...
-- try a different and smaller SD
-- restore the CF to its original partition state as descibed in Meanie's website, and just let the Debian installer reformat & repartition it?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167659\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Tried 4 different brand SD (though all 1G). Even tried deleting all partition in emergency mode and let the installer do the job, still no joy. A bit discouraged  

EDIT: now gathering all SD from different dc and try them one by one. Hope I still have a <1G one
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167661\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
 I'm now looking at a little rat as the gui snaps into action.

I am convinced that the problems I had yesterday were to do with that old 'Will this SD card work for flashing?' question! Nice to see that some things don't change!  

I still had some wobbles as it installed though. All down to me reading too hastily.  

Now all I have to do is find out how to use the gui!!  

Thanks Urkden for the post over at TitchyLinux, gave me the urge to try with one of my old, smaller cards.
3200 aka BigZ, swapped in 16GB Sandisk Extreme III CF, Cacko 1.23 full,  new SDHC >2GB module,
SL860 Cacko 1.23 full, new SDHC >2GB module,
6000L SharpRom 1.12 + Tetsu kernel,
5500 TKC home on SD x 2 (with SD>1GB),
Archos PMA30 with OPEN PMA (Giraffe),
Nokia 770 (Hackers Edition)
Nokia 800 (ITOS 2008), 4GB SDHC x 2
Asus eeepc 4G (black), with 1GB ram, dual boot Xandros on SSD with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx on 16 GB SDHC,
Tmobile G1 Android (black), with Cyanogen's  Firerat's MTD script and Amon Ra Recovery 1.7.0
Tmobile HTC Wildfire.. rooted and on Cyanogen's 7.3 nightly Rom
Kopi/Kapi on everything bar the phone and the Nokias, there is a beta for the nokias...

All the above are retired

Samsung Note 8 N5110
Samsung Note N7105
FBreader on the lot!

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« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2007, 12:47:17 pm »
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3. Given the mirror installation choice, picked http, does anyone have a 'good' UK choice?
Try http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/debian/

Plenty of bandwidth here!!

Cheers,

Alistair
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Thanks for your suggestion, but this time I just took the first one in the suggested list for the UK and it worked!
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 12:54:58 pm by tux »
3200 aka BigZ, swapped in 16GB Sandisk Extreme III CF, Cacko 1.23 full,  new SDHC >2GB module,
SL860 Cacko 1.23 full, new SDHC >2GB module,
6000L SharpRom 1.12 + Tetsu kernel,
5500 TKC home on SD x 2 (with SD>1GB),
Archos PMA30 with OPEN PMA (Giraffe),
Nokia 770 (Hackers Edition)
Nokia 800 (ITOS 2008), 4GB SDHC x 2
Asus eeepc 4G (black), with 1GB ram, dual boot Xandros on SSD with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx on 16 GB SDHC,
Tmobile G1 Android (black), with Cyanogen's  Firerat's MTD script and Amon Ra Recovery 1.7.0
Tmobile HTC Wildfire.. rooted and on Cyanogen's 7.3 nightly Rom
Kopi/Kapi on everything bar the phone and the Nokias, there is a beta for the nokias...

All the above are retired

Samsung Note 8 N5110
Samsung Note N7105
FBreader on the lot!

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« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2007, 12:54:08 pm »
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tux seems to be hinting that the CF recognition issue may have to do with the failure of the SD card to properly handle the CD installation image. My 1gb SD also failed.
[Well, I suddenly remember that the same 1gb SD card failed to install Debian EABI too!]
So, perhaps ...
-- try a different and smaller SD
-- restore the CF to its original partition state as descibed in Meanie's website, and just let the Debian installer reformat & repartition it?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=167659\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Hi ZDevil.

I'm sure that this is the difference. This time around the loading of the base packages that do the hardware detection etc. went all the way through. The first attempts bottled out at low percentages as I watched the progress bar.  

This time the hard disk was detected and the parted came into action.  

I forgot the name of the option on the main menu,   but I looked at ZDevil's screenshots and it is the 'load installer components' one.

This is looking very good.  
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 12:57:53 pm by tux »
3200 aka BigZ, swapped in 16GB Sandisk Extreme III CF, Cacko 1.23 full,  new SDHC >2GB module,
SL860 Cacko 1.23 full, new SDHC >2GB module,
6000L SharpRom 1.12 + Tetsu kernel,
5500 TKC home on SD x 2 (with SD>1GB),
Archos PMA30 with OPEN PMA (Giraffe),
Nokia 770 (Hackers Edition)
Nokia 800 (ITOS 2008), 4GB SDHC x 2
Asus eeepc 4G (black), with 1GB ram, dual boot Xandros on SSD with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx on 16 GB SDHC,
Tmobile G1 Android (black), with Cyanogen's  Firerat's MTD script and Amon Ra Recovery 1.7.0
Tmobile HTC Wildfire.. rooted and on Cyanogen's 7.3 nightly Rom
Kopi/Kapi on everything bar the phone and the Nokias, there is a beta for the nokias...

All the above are retired

Samsung Note 8 N5110
Samsung Note N7105
FBreader on the lot!

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« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2007, 01:03:28 pm »
I had an install issue as well with a 1Gb SD. This solved it :

Create new partitions using fdisk, create at least two, set the type of the first one to fat (type 6), save the partition table, format the first partition using mkfs.msdos, copy the files to this partition and play.

The trouble with some preformatted and pre-partitioned SD's is that the installer/emergency system/nand-restore ... doesn't recognise the partitions, even though they are just fine for normal use. Repartitioning on a linux box or the zaurus usually solves the problem.
I've done this trick several times to restore nand, install uboot and I had to do it again to install titchy.

Second tip : wait long enough after copying the files to disk before unmounting the card. Even on a windows box. Have a break, drink some coffee (do not spill it on the Z), have dinner, play with your kids, tell you're wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/dog/cat/... you love him/her, .... Just give it some time.

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« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2007, 01:03:33 pm »
debian ! debian ! debian !

(with kernel improvement please  )
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« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2007, 01:07:23 pm »
... I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that I undeniably do or do not know whether the SD card shouldn't probably be the culprit... (Ouch! Watch my nose!)

Perhaps we need to undertake some more serious empirical scientific research in the phenomenon of the breakdown of the chemical bonding  in the romantic relationship between CF and Debian inside a big dog's tummy...
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 01:09:17 pm by ZDevil »

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« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2007, 01:17:07 pm »
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... I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that I undeniably do or do not know whether the SD card shouldn't probably be the culprit... (Ouch! Watch my nose!)

Perhaps we need to undertake some more serious empirical scientific research in the phenomenon of the breakdown of the chemical bonding  in the romantic relationship between CF and Debian inside a big dog's tummy...
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I bet you went to uni ?  
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« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2007, 02:28:56 pm »
Heres a way out there type question - any chance I can install titchy on an SD card?
So I have pdaXii13 running fine on my MD. I would like to try out this titchy thing.....
Got a 2GB SD - say I partition it as 2 x 1GB and stick installer etc on 1 partition and then install to the other? Then when done could use partition1 as /home etc.....
Flaws? Not sure if there is a point in the boot/install where the target hard dirve is sleected/chosen - is there one?

TIA
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« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2007, 02:44:29 pm »
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Heres a way out there type question - any chance I can install titchy on an SD card?
So I have pdaXii13 running fine on my MD. I would like to try out this titchy thing.....
Got a 2GB SD - say I partition it as 2 x 1GB and stick installer etc on 1 partition and then install to the other? Then when done could use partition1 as /home etc.....
Flaws? Not sure if there is a point in the boot/install where the target hard dirve is sleected/chosen - is there one?

TIA
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For now the installer only knows the microdrive as the local disk but makes no friends with SD.
Perhaps an easier way is to make a backup of your pdaXii13 setup (seems Meanie has come up with a solution for this?) and let the microdrive taste Debian. You never know, maybe your Z ends up falling in love with it and asks for more...  
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 02:50:43 pm by ZDevil »

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« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2007, 03:06:14 pm »
I'm going to try to compile a new kernel for this. Anybody have any patch requests (not that they'll necessarily be used, but I'll most likely try)? The HostAP injection patch is already going to be used.
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« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2007, 03:10:30 pm »
Sound and fastfpe (if they are not there) please!  

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« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2007, 03:15:32 pm »
Another short note:
Besides the Comments section, check out the Tips section as there are many handy tips there:
http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Linux/Tips

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« Reply #104 on: September 20, 2007, 03:20:20 pm »
The tips page says:
"Hold the key to the right of Alt and tap the screen to perform a right mouse button click."
I tried but nothing happened. What to do?  

[EDIT]
xev reports that "the key to the right of Alt" is mapped to Control_R (keycode 105).
« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 03:24:54 pm by ZDevil »

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