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« Reply #120 on: September 20, 2007, 08:11:07 pm »
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Sounds great! I'll be testing soon if the install works. I formatted/wiped everything (including the MD), so there shouldn't be anything wrong.

How's IceWeasel work? Faster than in pdaX? How about Galeon (lightweight gecko-based browser)?
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I would think the next step would be to try epiphany running over webkit instead of gecko--it should be lighter, but still quite powerful
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« Reply #121 on: September 20, 2007, 08:39:30 pm »
Here's a lesson: It doesn't appear to work to just install a new kernel, so I'm going to try to flash the kernel in the first place. Hope it works (I like my packet injection. It's a great trick for amazing friends/convincing them to set up WPA ).
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« Reply #122 on: September 20, 2007, 08:43:06 pm »
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Here's a lesson: It doesn't appear to work to just install a new kernel, so I'm going to try to flash the kernel in the first place. Hope it works (I like my packet injection. It's a great trick for amazing friends/convincing them to set up WPA ).
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WPA and some beautiful MAC filter??

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« Reply #123 on: September 20, 2007, 09:24:53 pm »
Thanks for ZDevil screen caps.

I have no wifi / LAN card that can connect to internet. therefore the "failed to load codename message" cannot be evicted in the installation process normally.

I have tried the following command in the CONSOLE (in the very late menu options )

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debootstrap --arch arm etch target/ cdrom/
with the SD card having extracted the contents of the '/dists' inside the debian.iso and still no luck getting into the package selection screen (saying cannot find 'cdrom/dists/Release' file, and df gives the cdrom/ dir is mounted to SD card already). Has anyone got any workaround to get in that screen ?
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« Reply #124 on: September 20, 2007, 09:52:44 pm »
Quote from: tux,Sep 20 2007, 08:08 PM

It didn't set time and date correctly. I finally used date to sort that out.

I just set up ntpd and it's been right ever since.
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It forces a password change at every login.  

I hope someone can explain where to turn that off!  
(sorted I used passwd --mindays 30 user)  

No clue.
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It didn't set time and date correctly. I finally used date to sort that out.

I just set up ntpd and it's been right ever since.
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When I did the recommended command for staring the gui, from the install page the login screen was too big for the zaurus.  

Yeah, but it's no big deal.  I think the etch xdm is pretty cheesy, anyway.  Are you using gdm?  xdm works OK -- you just can't see all the window.  You see enough.

Quote from: tux,Sep 20 2007, 08:08 PM
Can't seem to get startx to work when logged in as ordinary user. Any suggestions?

Where is sudo when you want her?  
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Again, no clue, though I use xdm so I haven't tried.  Try suid'ing root.  

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Plus points:

It seems to me that the keymapping is spot on (I thought there were some glitches with the etch set up).
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iceweasel/icedove still ignores the Fn key, and @ is Shift--  not Fn--, which of course is good seeing as how you might want that key in icedove.
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The stylus/mouse seems to be more usable and positive.  
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Mouse?  That is the one thing I can't get working right.  I plug in a usb mouse, but have to hold it sideways to be able to move it properly, due to the screen orientation.  Since the kdrive server does not accept a config file, I am stumped.  Clue?  
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I've asked for a new forum down in the requests section. Hope some kind admin is paying attention.  
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Great.  Let us know when/if it happens.
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General plusses: the wifi connection has never been so stable, seems quicker than my very limited experience with pdaxrom. Like the browsers.

RFC: what is the standard pim stuff really? I don't recognise it from Ubuntu.
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I agree regarding the wifi.  I haven't tried it away from home yet, but with a working wifi-radar I have hopes, although the firmware on my Ambicom card is too old to support WPA.  

As far as PIM stuff goes, I am using orage for a calendar (on all my machines, now).  I want to be able to place a calendar file on all of my machines that I can use.  I will not use gpe-calendar, since the last two times they changed the file format, old files were unreadable by the new calendar.  So you cannot reliably use the damn thing if you regularly upgrade your system.  I am using gpe-contacts, and might think of using gpe-todo, but I don't use a to-do list.  

Orage is pretty simple, but it works, the calendar file is not buried 8 directories deep and inexplicable like dates (why in the evolution tree??), which file works??  It ain't real pretty, though.

If you hold fast to one version, I think gpe-calendar is prettier and has a better interface.  I have not yet decided.  You can actually get gpe-calendar for it, even though it is not in lenny.  It is in sid, and you can install directly a single sid package if you want.

Let's get the separate forum going.
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« Reply #125 on: September 20, 2007, 09:58:59 pm »
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Cross-compiling using the toolchain in the link above.
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?? What link?  I must've lost the thread you were responding to.
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« Reply #126 on: September 20, 2007, 10:20:27 pm »
This one:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo#kernel

I posted in the comments section of the homepage asking how the kernel was built in the first place, so hopefully that'll pan out.
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« Reply #127 on: September 21, 2007, 04:08:30 am »
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Well I must be keen: I re-installed it, but this time I chose testing (=lenny?) for the install. A few minor problems that I didn't see with etch.

It didn't set time and date correctly. I finally used date to sort that out.

It forces a password change at every login.   

I hope someone can explain where to turn that off!  
(sorted I used passwd --mindays 30 user)  

When I did the recommended command for staring the gui, from the install page the login screen was too big for the zaurus.   

Using startx sorted that out. I think I mean it's a bad idea to use xdm directly. But maybe the reboot had something to do with it working properly with startx?

RFC: what is the standard pim stuff really? I don't recognise it from Ubuntu.
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I had these problems when I chose many of the modules from the "Load components from CD installer" menu during installation. Just choose the "select mirror" componese (and perhaps also ssh client) will avoid them.

PIM stuff: GPEpim, Orage (simple but handy), KOrganizer (looks very nice!) + KAddressbook, Evolution, JPilot, Hnb, Emacs (Org-mode or Planner mode), VIM outliner ... and quite a few others.
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« Reply #128 on: September 21, 2007, 04:24:45 am »
A few issues so far:

Hardware:

1) How to adjust backlight?

2) The Kanji key (the one to the raight of Alt) + tap won't produce right click.

3) Occasional screen flickering

4) Stylus pointer "jumping", quite noticeable when the stylus sticks to the screen

5) Sound doesn't seem to work. xmms plays but no sound.

6) Silkscreen keys and screen hinge switch are not enabled.


Programs:

1) Cannot install Galeon or Epiphany. apt-get complains about "Broken Package" because libxul0d fails to install.

2) scim-tables-zh seems broken, but other scim chinese stuff seem to work fine.
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« Reply #129 on: September 21, 2007, 04:52:06 am »
Screen rotation does work!!

Just use:

xrandr -o 1

And this is the portrait mode. You don't even need to specify the geometry. XFCE4 seems to handle this so well!

And
xrandr -o 0 = landscape
xrandr -o 2 = inverted
xrandr -o 3 = inverted portrait

But xev fails to detect the screen hinge switch (same with the silkscreen button). So it seems the kernel do not set up these keys.
A simple solution is to create a system menu entry for the rotation command. Alias and desktop shortcuts will also do.

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« Reply #130 on: September 21, 2007, 06:49:48 am »
about sound : there is a .deb-package on the Titchy site to "hack" sound.
According to the comments/bugs/tips it should work. (I'll test this evening)

http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Li.../Fixed/No_sound

Anyone got bluetooth with a billionton CF working ?

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« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2007, 08:00:09 am »
Great. But where can i find the "zaurus-soundhack.deb" and the Angstrom ALSA userspace? There is no pointer on that page.

Also can anyone confirm if USB devices are working? I saw some USB libs and utilities in the package feeds. But my Z does not have network connection at the moment.

Thanks!

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« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2007, 08:47:25 am »
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Great. But where can i find the "zaurus-soundhack.deb" and the Angstrom ALSA userspace? There is no pointer on that page.

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« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2007, 09:55:34 am »
I have to admit I'm rather tempted by this ARM version of Debian particularly as I run Debian on 3 machines at home.

There is a different version of Murphy's Law called Barry's Law:

'If it can go wrong then he'll make it go wrong'    

In view of that I could change the microdrive in my C3100 for a new blank one and install on that. If I didn't like it or the installation failed miserably could I then replace my original microdrive and boot into my current operating system as normal?

If that is feasible where could I get a larger microdrive (8GB?) at a reasonable price preferably in the U.K.?

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« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2007, 10:17:45 am »
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Great. But where can i find the "zaurus-soundhack.deb" and the Angstrom ALSA userspace? There is no pointer on that page.

Also can anyone confirm if USB devices are working? I saw some USB libs and utilities in the package feeds. But my Z does not have network connection at the moment.

Thanks!
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The sound stuff I haven't bothered with, yet, except to verify that I could here a *.au file catted to /dev/audio.

I am currently using a usb mouse and jump drive, and a printer.  Just modprobe ohci-hcd.  They work like a charm, except the mouse is sideways.  I use a powered usb hub, but don't need it.  I thought the Z provided very little power to the usb port, but it's enough for these devices.  The power probably makes it easier on the battery, though.

I am trying to find someone to help me re-orient the mouse.  It seems to think the screen should be in portrait mode, and neither the kdrive server rotation nor xrandr will rotate the mouse orientation, only the screen display.
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