Debian On C3xxx (merged Topics)

[dlj0]

I have to admit I'm rather tempted by this ARM version of Debian particularly as I run Debian on 3 machines at home.

There is a different version of Murphy's Law called Barry's Law:

'If it can go wrong then he'll make it go wrong'   

In view of that I could change the microdrive in my C3100 for a new blank one and install on that. If I didn't like it or the installation failed miserably could I then replace my original microdrive and boot into my current operating system as normal?

If that is feasible where could I get a larger microdrive (8GB?) at a reasonable price preferably in the U.K.?

Ta muchly!
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Others have reported problems using non-standard microdrives.  YMMV.  So, what's so great about your current OS on the machine?

[ZDevil]

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My USB drive works after doing a modprobe ohci-hcd.

But when I connect my SE w800i phone via USB, I got this:

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usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using pxa27x-ohci and address 6
usb 1-2: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
usb 1-2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice
But that works under pdaX and OpenBSD.
Is there a fix for it?

[BarrySamuels]

I have to admit I'm rather tempted by this ARM version of Debian particularly as I run Debian on 3 machines at home.

There is a different version of Murphy's Law called Barry's Law:

'If it can go wrong then he'll make it go wrong'   

In view of that I could change the microdrive in my C3100 for a new blank one and install on that. If I didn't like it or the installation failed miserably could I then replace my original microdrive and boot into my current operating system as normal?

If that is feasible where could I get a larger microdrive (8GB?) at a reasonable price preferably in the U.K.?

Ta muchly!
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Others have reported problems using non-standard microdrives.  YMMV.  So, what's so great about your current OS on the machine?
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It works!  

[tux]

 Reinstalling: I think I know what I'm doing now!  

I've picked the ssh component from the mirror section and I've decided to go back to stable. The login looked a lot neater.

I'd like to be able to boot into command line,  log in and goto gui from ordinary user. I'll have to remember how I used to do this on older machines.

apt-get install sudo will solve one of my problems, if I remember add my ordinary user to sudoers.

Since my boxes run ubuntu, I think I'll head towards their way of working.

About pim, I use kdepimpi  in the all platform version that can run from memory card or pendrive with my boxes. I use the Z version on my other Zs and the Archos.

I'm hoping that I can just put the files on a memory card, mount on this system and just click and run. If I can I'll report back.

If it won't, there is always the compile the source method?

But probably the easier thing would be to install korganiser and kdepim because I could just drop the Z data into the right directory and configure the kde apps to match.

I certainly don't fancy entering 600+ contacts from the keyboard again!  

  Another reason for dropping back to etch is that the lenny system started having wifi problems. The booting process showed that a hack was being loaded to get round a problem with my card and the messages started to be errors!  

Anyway this distro has rekindled my enthusiasm for the 3200 and caused a good deal of late night over indulgence in caffeine!  

I'm off to shred spam in the wiki.

[adf]

Screen rotation does work!!

Just use:

xrandr -o 1

And this is the portrait mode. You don't even need to specify the geometry. XFCE4 seems to handle this so well!

And
xrandr -o 0 = landscape
xrandr -o 2 = inverted
xrandr -o 3 = inverted portrait

But xev fails to detect the screen hinge switch (same with the silkscreen button). So it seems the kernel do not set up these keys.
A simple solution is to create a system menu entry for the rotation command. Alias and desktop shortcuts will also do.
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possibly yet another reason to improve and refine the kernel (other than so that I can use it  )

[ZDevil]

@adf

Have you tried to install Debian again with another SD card?
So far there are two theories floating around:

Theory 1: The kernel fails to handle certain CF cards/microdrives. We have yet to see the hard evidence.
Theory 2: It is a more general issue of SD card misbehavior (see Chero's post for the fix) that causes problem during extraction of the CD image, resulting in the failure to reformat the disk (it seems the reformatting tool is somewhere in the CD image). A number of users (tux, Chero, me, etc) have confirmed this.

How about supplying us some evidence for/against either of these?

[ZDevil]

I'd like to be able to boot into command line,  log in and goto gui from ordinary user. I'll have to remember how I used to do this on older machines.

About pim, I use kdepimpi  in the all platform version that can run from memory card or pendrive with my boxes. I use the Z version on my other Zs and the Archos.

I'm hoping that I can just put the files on a memory card, mount on this system and just click and run. If I can I'll report back.

But probably the easier thing would be to install korganiser and kdepim because I could just drop the Z data into the right directory and configure the kde apps to match.

I certainly don't fancy entering 600+ contacts from the keyboard again!  
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Booting into the command line:
I posted a trick earlier on to kill and remove xdm (after upgrading to Lenny)
1) # /etc/init.d/xdm stop
2) Exit X
3) # update-rc.d -f xdm remove
4) Done

PIM data:
unison would be very useful here. No need to manually compare/merge/fix the differences between files.

[ZDevil]

As for brightness, I came across xbrightness (only available for Lenny and Sid), but it complains about the old version of randr in the system. The program requires 1.2 and it spots the 1.1 version in the system. I have searched around a bit in the package feeds but don't know yet how to get around this.

[tux]

Reinstalling: I think I know what I'm doing now!  

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  Another reason for dropping back to etch is that the lenny system started having wifi problems. The booting process showed that a hack was being loaded to get round a problem with my card and the messages started to be errors!  

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It took two attempts to reinstall. The first one cracked up with segmentation faults towards the end of the process. Don't ask what happened, I have no clue!

Perhaps an occurrence of BarrySamuel's law!  

The problem then, after successful install, was that the wireless card stopped working. It didn't do that last night!  

Maybe the fact that my cards are three old Zonet cards and a Pretec from the dark ages has a bearing on this? Perhaps I should get a new flashy wifi card. Any tips?  

It seems that the system now renames the wifi interface from the eth0 used in install, which is configured, to wlan1, which of course isn't!  

I edited the interfaces file to reflect the change and went on my merry way rejoicing.

The gui is installing now.

I plan to install dhcp-client edit the interfaces file to suit, sudo and edit the sudoers file, alter the time before password change is forced and  set the system time correctly.

I'll do a shutdown -r reboot and see what happens before I use the gui extensively.

Boy is this revising my patchy command line skills!

I'll make a note of your xdm tip ZDevil. Thanks again.

[Chero]

Hi,

Still somebody working on the kernel ?
I can't get "serial_cs.ko" loaded cause "8250.ko" gives errors about unknown symbols.
Without serial_cs I can't get my Billionton-bluetooth-CF running ...

Chero.

[Capn_Fish]

Well, I e-mailed neil and posted in the comments section asking how the kernel was originally built. I'm currently trying to just use the patched HostAP drivers from a custom-built kernel in the hopes they will work and I won't need to recompile the kernel.

[adf]

Well, I e-mailed neil and posted in the comments section asking how the kernel was originally built. I'm currently trying to just use the patched HostAP drivers from a custom-built kernel in the hopes they will work and I won't need to recompile the kernel.
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My CF issues aside, it seems to me that this kernel, despite being a major step in getting a large distro on the Z, still needs to be tweaked quite a bit

[ZDevil]

about sound : there is a .deb-package on the Titchy site to "hack" sound.
According to the comments/bugs/tips it should work. (I'll test this evening)
http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Li.../Fixed/No_sound
Anyone got bluetooth with a billionton CF working ?
Chero.
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I tried neil's solution:
1) apt-get install zaurus-soundhack
2) Edit /etc/default/soundhack. Set the volume level (0-100)
3) Run /etc/rcS.d/S50soundhack

But it doesn't work. xmms and a couple of games (such as xarchon) still play no sound.

The titchy linux wiki is down for the moment, so I can't check again.
I vaguely remember the bug fixed page says something like setting in OSS.
Has anyone succeeded here?

[ZDevil]

My CF issues aside, it seems to me that this kernel, despite being a major step in getting a large distro on the Z, still needs to be tweaked quite a bit
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Just curious to know if Debian still fails to install on your CF with other SD cards (< 1gb).

[adf]

My CF issues aside, it seems to me that this kernel, despite being a major step in getting a large distro on the Z, still needs to be tweaked quite a bit
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Just curious to know if Debian still fails to install on your CF with other SD cards (< 1gb).
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Actually, I'm pretty convinced that meanie was right-- I haven't tried, under the assumption that the error saying the kernel couldn't see hda1 meant the problem was in recognizing the cf.  I might try this weekend, though the sound problem isn't encouraging