Debian On C3xxx (merged Topics)

[tux]

 I thought this might be a sensible place to post a copy of a message Neil put on his site:

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All,

I've made a couple of updates to the wiki, including some of the tips you've shared here.  But I have less and less time to work on this...

Titchy is a very small project (just a kernel, an X server and some default XFCE4 settings, really).  Hopefully someone else can take what I've started and run with it.
   2007-10-11 15:57:20

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If there is anyone who might be able to offer any help, perhaps they should contact Neil and see what might be done?

Also, there is a file for download there called linux-2.6.20.tar.gz, Titchy Sources , which might be of value. It is 50+ MB in size, so I shan't attempt to upload it. It appears to be the kernel source that people were asking for.

[RX Shorty]

Looks pretty sweet this OS!
A pitty it isn't working on the SL6000 series  

[Chero]

Looks pretty sweet this OS!
A pitty it isn't working on the SL6000 series  

Is Angstrom working ?
If yes, then it should be possible !

[RX Shorty]

Is Angstrom working ?
If yes, then it should be possible !

I don't know, if so it would be nice.
Then again, I don't think the Wifi hardware is allready supported, so have to compile that for it...

Can somebody give some info about the Angstrom?
Thanks  

[jpmatrix]

Is Angstrom working ?
If yes, then it should be possible !

I don't know, if so it would be nice.
Then again, I don't think the Wifi hardware is allready supported, so have to compile that for it...

Can somebody give some info about the Angstrom?
Thanks  

have a look on www.angstrom-distribution.org and read :

Supported Zaurus Machines
Posted October 7th, 2007 by XorA
in Zaurus
Just so there is no confusion for people switching from from OpenZaurus there are currently only three Zaurus machines that have active support within Ångström.

These machines are supported: c7x0, spitz (C3X00), poodle (5600).

These machines are not supported: tosa (6000), collie (5500), akita (1000).

We will continue to produce images for the unsupported machines but fixes to them are likely to be slow in being worked on without active developer working on them.

[Chero]

... These machines are not supported: tosa (6000), collie (5500), akita (1000).

We will continue to produce images for the unsupported machines but fixes to them are likely to be slow in being worked on without active developer working on them.

Ok, but still I'm dual-booting Angstrom - Titchy on my C1000.    
I haven't got a 6000 to test, anyone else ?

[tux]

... These machines are not supported: tosa (6000), collie (5500), akita (1000).

We will continue to produce images for the unsupported machines but fixes to them are likely to be slow in being worked on without active developer working on them.

Ok, but still I'm dual-booting Angstrom - Titchy on my C1000.    
I haven't got a 6000 to test, anyone else ?

 I do have a 6000 to test but I use that as my working pim/pda (600+ contacts!). I'm also busy on the wiki and you'll probably recall that I still haven't managed to use the 'ZDevil' alternative install on my 3200 yet, nor get sound working!! So any testing on my 6000 is likely to be some fairly distant time in the future  

However, am I right in thinking that a large SD card is needed? Would a 4GB one be ok? The first step is to install angstrom: is that correct? Then, install altboot and with an SD card I've prepared earlier, I take a relaxed belly-flop into Titchy?  

With an angstrom installation in the mix I think I'll wait for the promised detailed installation instructions.  

Cheers

[adf]

To refer back to an earlier discussion, ZDevi'ls 10-step method did NOt work using the A-Data 16G cf. Looks like the same deal--kernel can't Id the card and panics

[ZDevil]

Sorry to hear that...
But, adf,  I am really curious to know one thing:    Can you verify if you can run Angstrom off the A-Data CF? If yes then it should be a Debian issue; if not, then it would be an Angstrom kernel issue (because we are using the Angstrom kernel to run Debian).

[adf]

Sorry to hear that...
But, adf,  I am really curious to know one thing:    Can you verify if you can run Angstrom off the A-Data CF? If yes then it should be a Debian issue; if not, then it would be an Angstrom kernel issue (because we are using the Angstrom kernel to run Debian).

I would guess not-- will check soon.
I was using the 2.6.17-- do you think a newer kernel would fare better?

[ZDevil]

If that's an Angstrom issue, then you may want to ask in the Angstrom mailing list, because the Angstrom dev don't like their users asking questions in this forum ...  

[T3_slider]

Angstrom dev don't like their users asking questions in this forum

Where did you get an idea like that?

[adf]

If that's an Angstrom issue, then you may want to ask in the Angstrom mailing list, because the Angstrom dev don't like their users asking questions in this forum ...  

Yeah, I really don't think I'll get much enthusiasm for "I'm using non-stadard hardware to run 'NOT YOUR OS,' but would like to check on some kernel tweaks to make my life easier..." I think I see something 2.4 based in my near future

ANd as of my last (some time ago, really) attempt to make OE believe that my 3100 was a 1000 and use the sd card...well..it wasn't happening. If it is know that the SD method can be used by a 3x00, that might be workable.  I would guess not, though

[golly]

Sorry to hear that...
But, adf,  I am really curious to know one thing:    Can you verify if you can run Angstrom off the A-Data CF? If yes then it should be a Debian issue; if not, then it would be an Angstrom kernel issue (because we are using the Angstrom kernel to run Debian).

I would guess not-- will check soon.
I was using the 2.6.17-- do you think a newer kernel would fare better?

adf - If you want to know where to look for adding your card's MANFID into the kernel, see Marcin's patch for ide-cs submitted last year:
http://uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0609.3/0393.html

[Meanie]

If that's an Angstrom issue, then you may want to ask in the Angstrom mailing list, because the Angstrom dev don't like their users asking questions in this forum ...  

Yeah, I really don't think I'll get much enthusiasm for "I'm using non-stadard hardware to run 'NOT YOUR OS,' but would like to check on some kernel tweaks to make my life easier..." I think I see something 2.4 based in my near future

ANd as of my last (some time ago, really) attempt to make OE believe that my 3100 was a 1000 and use the sd card...well..it wasn't happening. If it is know that the SD method can be used by a 3x00, that might be workable.  I would guess not, though

It not all Angstrom developers, just one of them, notably the most noisy and pushy one and he just does not like THIS forum. He never complains on the other forums when people asks questions about Angstrom or any of his babies...

As for c1000 vs c3x00, they treat akita differently than the other c3x00 which is different from all the other distros which treat c3000 differently! until very recently for example, the pxa overlay support was only available for the spitz kernel, but not akita even though both have the same internal display hardware... booting off the SD requires the sd module stuff to be compiled into the kernel and not as a separate module. in spitz, it is a separate module, but in akita, some kernels had it compiled into the kernel to allow it to boot from the SD.