Author Topic: Debian (titchy) Vs. Debian Eabi ? (Read 30773 times)

ZDevil · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2007, 04:28:52 pm »

Update:

My suspicion confirmed: I must prepare the whole system (ext3 disk, rootfs, kernel modules) BEFORE installing uboot and 2or0's kernel, mainly because the pdaXrom emergency system cannot handle ext3 partitions.

Now I got consoletool installed and keymap loaded. Time to poke around ...

My very initial impression: Debian EABI is *very* fast!

2or0 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2007, 04:33:36 pm »

Ok, you did it.

When you want to set up Xwindow, refer following link. That is good introduction.
http://inv2004.googlepages.com/z1000_debian.txt

ZDevil · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2007, 05:40:15 pm »

Wonderful!

I am so absent-minded that Chero told me just yesterday that the Debian armel (EABI) packages are all in Sid.

Networking is up now!

I am going to add the installation method of this (2or0's kernel + EABI rootfs) to my WIP how-to.

jpmatrix · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2007, 05:44:17 pm »

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Could you provide a pointer to your kernel, or simply upload here? I am very eager to try that!
Check here for kernel and module. - http://yonggun.tistory.com/53
One kernel is for SD installation and the other is for installing on hda1. Be cautious that this kernel uses UBOOT.

hi 2or0 !
now i've debian eabi on my C3000, i'd like to try your need-for-speed kernel !
but you said "kernel uses UBOOT."
does that mean that i cannot use it on my C3000

(now i'm running with angstrom's 2.6.22 kernel)

ZDevil · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2007, 05:56:17 pm »

Yes. To install UBOOT means you have to install everything again... (that's what i did today)

2or0 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2007, 06:10:42 pm »

Quote from: jpmatrix

Quote from: 2or0
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Could you provide a pointer to your kernel, or simply upload here? I am very eager to try that!
Check here for kernel and module. - http://yonggun.tistory.com/53
One kernel is for SD installation and the other is for installing on hda1. Be cautious that this kernel uses UBOOT.

hi 2or0 !
now i've debian eabi on my C3000, i'd like to try your need-for-speed kernel !
but you said "kernel uses UBOOT."
does that mean that i cannot use it on my C3000

(now i'm running with angstrom's 2.6.22 kernel)

yes, you should install uboot in your system. I think you can do it but I am not sure. Also you don't need install all debian rootfs again. First copy modules into the system, and install uboot and kernel for internel disk. That's it.

jpmatrix · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2007, 06:24:32 pm »

Quote from: 2or0

Quote from: jpmatrix
Quote from: 2or0
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Could you provide a pointer to your kernel, or simply upload here? I am very eager to try that!
Check here for kernel and module. - http://yonggun.tistory.com/53
One kernel is for SD installation and the other is for installing on hda1. Be cautious that this kernel uses UBOOT.

hi 2or0 !
now i've debian eabi on my C3000, i'd like to try your need-for-speed kernel !
but you said "kernel uses UBOOT."
does that mean that i cannot use it on my C3000

(now i'm running with angstrom's 2.6.22 kernel)

yes, you should install uboot in your system. I think you can do it but I am not sure. Also you don't need install all debian rootfs again. First copy modules into the system, and install uboot and kernel for internel disk. That's it.

well well
i've just found that Meanie has yet asked the question :

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23551

with no answers....

however even with the angstrom kernel, eabi seems really faster than tichy so...

now i 'm hit by several uninstalable packages : mutt, pidgin, mplayer runs but fails to render video, .... i hope they'll be fixed soon. any idea?

2or0 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2007, 06:38:51 pm »

Quote from: jpmatrix

Quote from: 2or0
Quote from: jpmatrix
Quote from: 2or0
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Could you provide a pointer to your kernel, or simply upload here? I am very eager to try that!
Check here for kernel and module. - http://yonggun.tistory.com/53
One kernel is for SD installation and the other is for installing on hda1. Be cautious that this kernel uses UBOOT.

hi 2or0 !
now i've debian eabi on my C3000, i'd like to try your need-for-speed kernel !
but you said "kernel uses UBOOT."
does that mean that i cannot use it on my C3000

(now i'm running with angstrom's 2.6.22 kernel)

yes, you should install uboot in your system. I think you can do it but I am not sure. Also you don't need install all debian rootfs again. First copy modules into the system, and install uboot and kernel for internel disk. That's it.

well well
i've just found that Meanie has yet asked the question :

https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=23551

with no answers....

however even with the angstrom kernel, eabi seems really faster than tichy so...

now i 'm hit by several uninstalable packages : mutt, pidgin, mplayer runs but fails to render video, .... i hope they'll be fixed soon. any idea?

I got mplayer from angstrom iwmmxt package which shows quite good performance with pxa video output. I can watch vga animation without overclocking. Also mutt, pidgin are in the feed.

ZDevil · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2007, 08:24:32 pm »

Another update:

Now I am in!

The instructions in http://inv2004.googlepages.com/z1000_debian.txt are mostly accurate, except 44)

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44) wget http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unsta...-r12_armv4t.ipk
   && ar x tslib-conf_1.0-r12_armv4t.ipk
   && tar zxvf data.tar.gz
   && cat ./etc/ts.conf | sed 's/^# module_raw corgi/module_raw corgi/' > /etc/ts.conf
   && cat etc/profile.d/tslib.sh | grep -v '#!/bin/sh' >> ~/.profile

Three problems:
1) The default tslib.sh does not work for the Z. TSLIB_TSDEVICE should not be /dev/input/touchscreen0 but /dev/input/ts0
2) One very crucial step is missing: you have to copy the ./usr/lib/ts to /usr/lib, otherwise ts_calibrate will complain about missing modules!
3) The angstrom feed now has a newer version of tslib-conf and ts-calibrate

Hey, this is no ranting at all, because ...

Setting up Debian EABI is actually much easier than I expected!
Networking ...... OK
X-window ...... OK
Stylus pointer ..... OK (no jumping! and yes, xournal runs very well.)
Hwclock write ..... OK

Now only sound left!
@2or0:
-- how can you get sound working? Which packages do you use?
-- if I wanna use the Angstrom packages, which arch should I use? armv5te, armv5teb or armv4t?
-- I got an error when installing xournal. while setting up libpaper1, there was a mysterious error saying

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Setting up libpaper1 (1.1.23) ...
umount: /mnt/cf: not mounted
dpkg: error processing libpaper1 (--configure)
SNIPPED

What does /mnt/cf have to do with setting up libpaper1?

Truly, EABI is much faster than OABI! (Powermanga doesn't lag terribly as in titchy...)

jpmatrix · « **Reply #24 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:32:13 am »

Quote from: ZDevil

Another update:

Now I am in!

welcome to this need_for_speed debian eabi !

Quote from: ZDevil

Three problems:
1) The default tslib.sh does not work for the Z. TSLIB_TSDEVICE should not be /dev/input/touchscreen0 but /dev/input/ts0

that's funny because my C3000 works with /dev/input/touchscreen0 .... perhaps a device question ?

Quote from: ZDevil

2) One very crucial step is missing: you have to copy the ./usr/lib/ts to /usr/lib, otherwise ts_calibrate will complain about missing modules!

i didn't run ts_calibrate, but i copied /etc/pointercal from angstrom's...

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3) The angstrom feed now has a newer version of tslib-conf and ts-calibrate

...and a brand new 2.6.23 kernel since today !!!!!!!

Quote from: ZDevil

Stylus pointer ..... OK (no jumping! and yes, xournal runs very well.)

grrrrrrrrr i don't believe i still have jumping....perhaps a C3000 problem ? have someone with a C3000 have this problem gone

[quote name='ZDevil' date='Oct 25 2007, 02:24 AM' post='169833']
-- how can you get sound working? Which packages do you use?

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yes we need to test it now!
i believe the sound devices are not yet there because there's no /dev/audio or /dev/mixer....

[quote name='ZDevil' date='Oct 25 2007, 02:24 AM' post='169833']
Setting up libpaper1 (1.1.23) ...
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funny, i didn't have this problem..... apt-get install xournal ran without any problem and xournal just run fine here.....

jpmatrix · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2007, 02:00:01 am »

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I got mplayer from angstrom iwmmxt package which shows quite good performance with pxa video output. I can watch vga animation without overclocking. Also mutt, pidgin are in the feed.

how do you manage angstrom packages??? do you just uncompress them or is there a way do some sort of ipkg2deb

i mean i would not want to break debian apt-get dependancies...

ZDevil · « **Reply #26 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:26:32 am »

Quote from: jpmatrix

Quote from: ZDevil
Three problems:
1) The default tslib.sh does not work for the Z. TSLIB_TSDEVICE should not be /dev/input/touchscreen0 but /dev/input/ts0
that's funny because my C3000 works with /dev/input/touchscreen0 .... perhaps a device question ?

Quote from: ZDevil
2) One very crucial step is missing: you have to copy the ./usr/lib/ts to /usr/lib, otherwise ts_calibrate will complain about missing modules!
i didn't run ts_calibrate, but i copied /etc/pointercal from angstrom's...

Quote from: ZDevil
Stylus pointer ..... OK (no jumping! and yes, xournal runs very well.)
grrrrrrrrr i don't believe i still have jumping....perhaps a C3000 problem ? have someone with a C3000 have this problem gone

In my system there are /dev/input/ts0 , /dev/input/event1 and others, but no /dev/input/touchscreen0 .

I have to recalibrate, because the pointer by default behaves very wildly.
I also copied /etc/pointercal from my C860, but that didn't help. I had to copy the modules from /usr/lib/ts in the Angstrom libts package to get recalibration working.

For the jumping pointer issue, are you using the Angstrom kernel? Mine is 2or0's version.

jpmatrix · « **Reply #27 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:30:30 am »

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For the jumping pointer issue, are you using the Angstrom kernel? Mine is 2or0's version.

i'm using angstrom's kernel 2.6.22
but thanks to JohnX this bug is now solved: i just rmmod mousedev !
do you have it running?

ZDevil · « **Reply #28 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:32:40 am »

You are right: no /dev/mousedev in mine.

2or0 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2007, 03:38:08 am »

Quote from: ZDevil

Now only sound left!
@2or0:
-- how can you get sound working? Which packages do you use?
-- if I wanna use the Angstrom packages, which arch should I use? armv5te, armv5teb or armv4t?
-- I got an error when installing xournal. while setting up libpaper1, there was a mysterious error saying
Quote
Setting up libpaper1 (1.1.23) ...
umount: /mnt/cf: not mounted
dpkg: error processing libpaper1 (--configure)
SNIPPED
What does /mnt/cf have to do with setting up libpaper1?

Ok,
- for sound, you should install these packages: alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss. If you unmute all in alsamixer, you can hear the sound. To listen to music using xmms, install xmms and xmms-mad package together.
- I used armv5te binaries from angstrom.
- I don't have that problem with libpaper1.

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Quote from: 2or0
I got mplayer from angstrom iwmmxt package which shows quite good performance with pxa video output. I can watch vga animation without overclocking. Also mutt, pidgin are in the feed.

how do you manage angstrom packages??? do you just uncompress them or is there a way do some sort of ipkg2deb
i mean i would not want to break debian apt-get dependancies...

ipk for angstrom and deb for deb use same packaging method. Please don't be confused that ipk of angstrom and ipk of pdaXrom or sharprom are different. so if you want to use binary of angstrom:
# ar x package
# tar zxvf data.tar.gz
then you can copy the extracted files into the system.

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Author Topic: Debian (titchy) Vs. Debian Eabi ? (Read 30773 times)