Ogg-Vorbis: Zaurus: What file extension should I use?

[TonyOlsen]

What extension should my ogg-vorbis files have to work on the Zaurus.  I\'m using the ogg-vorbis plugin for the built-in mediaplayer:

http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=617

I\'ve tried .ogg and .mp3.  Neither of them works.  .ogg doesn\'t have an application associated with it, and .mp3 opens up the media player, but it just goes ahead and closes without any messages.

I\'m trying to play the following 4 kbps ogg-vorbis file:

http://sjeng.org/ftp/vorbis/qnres3.ogg

I\'ve been told that other people have played 4 kbps ogg-vorbis files on their Zaurus.  (for example: slocaus on http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&t=3654 (near the bottom) ).

... were they using a different player?

[PsionX]

You must change /etc/mimetypes (\"audio/ogg      ogg\" ) and /home/QtPalmtop/apps/Multimedia/Mediaplayer.desktop like this :
----------------
[Desktop Entry]
#Comment=A Media Playback Program
Exec=mpegplayer
Icon=MPEGPlayer
Type=Application
Type[de]=Anwendung
MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/ogg;audio/mpeg
MimeTypeIcons=Sound;ogg;mp3   ***personnal icons****
CanFastload=0
Name=Media Player
Display=640x480/144dpi,480x640/144dpi
HidePrivilege=1
NeedSpace=5120
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[TonyOlsen]

I\'ve also tried .avi (pulled up file in tkcVideo, which then closes) and .wav (pulled up file in voice recorder, which doesn\'t do anything) extensions.

[Greg2]

I\'m playing it now on my 5600 with the standard sharp media player and the same ogg-vorbis plugin. It\'s playing at 6kHz stereo just fine, quality not quite as good as the 44kHz stereo I use but it\'s file size is a lot smaller.

Greg

[TonyOlsen]

/etc/mimetypes  

/etc brings me to /home/etc , but I can\'t find mimetypes anywhere...

/home/QtPalmtop/apps/Multimedia/Mediaplayer.desktop  

I can\'t find /home/QtPalmtop either.  I *am* using QTopia (the one that came with the C860).

...sorry... I\'m still new to Linux, but I\'m learning.  I don\'t know the directory structures well yet...

[tumnus]

/etc/mimetypes  

/etc brings me to /home/etc , but I can\'t find mimetypes anywhere...

Psion meant /home/QtPalmtop/etc/mime.types

/home/QtPalmtop/apps/Multimedia/Mediaplayer.desktop  

I can\'t find /home/QtPalmtop either.  I *am* using QTopia (the one that came with the C860).

...sorry... I\'m still new to Linux, but I\'m learning.  I don\'t know the directory structures well yet...

The Zaurus directory structures are a bit different to desktop Linux. Anyway, you must have a /home/QtPalmtop if you have a Qtopia based ROM. Remember that Linux is case sensitive.

[TonyOlsen]

found it...  now, how do I edit it other than using \"vi\"?  (I\'ve heard that \"vi\" is the greatest thing since slice bread but it has a learning curve which I haven\'t mastered yet).  How can I get the built in GUI text editor to edit a file?  How can I load it from terminal?

[PsionX]

No.. Zeditor :
http://www.aa.alpha-net.ne.jp/satoshic/dw_engzd.htm

[TonyOlsen]

Weird... I instlaled the ZEditor, which appeared to work fine.  I opened the mime.types file, made the changes, but it wouldn\'t let me save it.  It gives me the following message: \"fm.saveFile : Please investigate the file...\"

I tried \"su\", went back to the directory, and typed \"zeditor mim.types\" and it wouldn\'t let me open it.  It says

Qt/Embedded data directory is not owned by user 0
Aborted

The permissions are:

-rw-r----  ...but I forgot the meanings...  Doesn\'t that mean that \"root\" can Read and Write, and \"special groups\" can Read?  If that\'s true, that would explain why I can\'t save it, but it doesn\'t explain why I can\'t open it as \"su\" (isn\'t that \"root\"?).

Any ideas?

[TonyOlsen]

another note... what I opened the file (not in \"su\" mode) using ZEditor, here\'s what I see on the screen:

zeditor mime.types
SlSharedManager: can\'t get proc entry
Display size = 480x640
could not open translation file /home/QtPalmtop//i18n.zh_TW/libs1.qmid
filename:/home/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts/arial_140_50_t10.qpf
fontName:lcfont , size:10
open failed: mime.types.new

(The above was hand copied... typing errors may be present)

[PsionX]

2s on Zeditor icon and check \"Run with root privileges\"

[TonyOlsen]

I did that and I still got the same messge when trying to save the file:

fm.saveFile : Please investigate the file...

I also tried running the application from the GUI Application tab (instead of from the Terminal).  I click on the \"mime.types\" from the history list in the menu, and it can\'t find the file...

[Greg2]

found it...  now, how do I edit it other than using \"vi\"?  (I\'ve heard that \"vi\" is the greatest thing since slice bread but it has a learning curve which I haven\'t mastered yet).

Just a thought...copy the file and edit it with vi and see how easy it is, you can\'t hurt the copy and it will only take a little practice.

Here is a nice how to:
http://www.zaurususergroup.com/modules.php...20to%20use%20VI

Greg

[TonyOlsen]

Ugh!  I really don\'t like vi... I tried those commands (from the URL tutorial above) and it wouldn\'t ever let me back into \":\" mode to type \"q!\".  \":q1\" was the first thing I learned in vi, so that I can leave without saving all of the mistakes I just made trying to edit a simple file in this unintuitive help-less gui-less editor program.

* ugh *

I feel like vi bashing, but I will forebear.  I\'m sure it\'s great once you learn all (and I mean ALL) of the commands... but until then, it is a headache.

I used chmod a+rwx mime.types, since I suspected the zeditor isn\'t saving because it is a permissions issue... but that didn\'t work either.  Same message when trying to save.

This would be a lot easier if the Qtopia gui applications were able to see outside the \"Documents\" directory.  It can\'t see the system files except in Terminal.  Is it possible that ZEditor can\'t see outisde of Documents either?

[TonyOlsen]

Wasn\'t there another built-in editor (less powerful than vi, but easier)?  Is \"emacs\" an editor... or something like that?  I\'m trying to think back 10 years to my Unix days.

So much hassle just to add a single line to a text file.  I think this is one of the reasons most people are turned off to Linux.

But... I\'m willing to put in the time (if you can give me the patience) to learn this powerful sophisticated, and yet unintuitive, OS.