Ogg-Vorbis: Zaurus: What file extension should I use?

[PsionX]

See you over post : http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...3729&highlight=
Make.. only one post  it\'s more simple...

[TonyOlsen]

It is Stereo audio at only 4 kbps!   That\'s 1/30th the bitrate of a typical MP3... naturally there will be distortions...  considering that I can now fit an entire CD on a floppy diskette.

1: Which player do you use to play your ogg files?
2: What Zaurus are you running (and which ROM?)
3: Where did you get that player and/or the needed ogg plugin?
4: Anything else so that I can get mine working like yours?

Thanks, =)

[Greg2]

I will zip the ipk and try to attach here

qtopia-mediaplayer_1.5.0_arm.ipk.zip

[Greg2]

Unzip and install that with your ogg-vorbis plugin here:
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=617

Greg

[Greg2]

The files I\'ve attached work with the 5500 and 5600 with sharp roms v3.13 and v1.32 and should work for you if you remove the one your using now.

Good luck,

Greg

[TonyOlsen]

Greg2,

You Rock!  Thanks!!  I\'m listening to the 4 kbps stereo audio files now.  It works!!

suruaZ,

I hear the artificats that you mentioned.  I think that when I play the file in Windows Media player on my PC the advanced codec comes with special filters, etc, that \"smooth out\" the audio so there\'s less static.

But still... it\'s great to have it!  I\'m so happy!   Gotta\' start encoding my audio books at 4 kbps ogg vorbis and put them on my Zaurus!

Thanks everyone who helped!!

[LadyBug]

I installed the mpegplayer & ogg plugin and configured the mediaplayer icon to execute it and it seems to work --- sortof.
I do have some problems. First of all, all the OGG files are shown in the list as icon+R, i.e. not by track name as MP3
files. So it\'s a tad difficult to tell, which song it is. If I click one, it does start playing the ogg file and the name is scrolling
on the screen, but the screen is otherwise garbled. First of all, it takes only the upper left quadrant. Second, the circles
that are supposed to form the UI (I think?) are sorf of quartered and mixed.

When I ran the mpegplayer from the command line the first time, it complained something about libpng, but I didn\'t
take note of it since the error message hasn\'t been there since.

Any hints? I\'m running Cacko 1.20 on my 760.

[PsionX]

Reinstall Mediaplayer  or update to Cacko 1.21
See my post : http://www.zaurususergroup.com/index.php?n...iewtopic&t=3299
Links updated

[itnj99]

Wasn\'t there another built-in editor (less powerful than vi, but easier)?  Is \"emacs\" an editor... or something like that?  I\'m trying to think back 10 years to my Unix days.

Emacs usually isn\'t considered \'built-in\', but yes it\'s an common editor.
Most people, I think, consider it more compex than vi.
Perhaps you are thinking of pico or nano.
Pico came as part of the pine mail client and was geared to people
who didn\'t want to learn vi or emacs. Nano is a replacement for pico
with a GPL license.

So much hassle just to add a single line to a text file.  I think this is one of the reasons most people are turned off to Linux.

But... I\'m willing to put in the time (if you can give me the patience) to learn this powerful sophisticated, and yet unintuitive, OS.

Hrmph.

The thing that trips up people new to vi is that it was two modes.
A command mode and an insert mode.

To get back to command mode, press ESC -- press several times and it will beep at you \"reassuringly\".

some basic commands:

Code: [Select]

h,j,k,l              basic movements   left, down, up, right



  0                  (zero) move to beginning of the line

  $                  move to the end of the line

  b, w               move forward/backword a word

  G                  move to the end of the buffer

      [number]G      move the line number, e.g. 1G



  i                  enter insert mode at the cursor

  a                  enter insert mode after the cursor

  d*                 \'d\' followed by a movement specification deletes stuff

      dd             delete current line

      dj             delete line

      d4j            delete 4 lines down



  x                  delete character(s)

      5x             delete 5 characters



  c                  change characters(s)  (switched to insert mode)

      c$             change text from the cursor to the end of the line

      cw             change word forward



  ZZ                 save and exit (that\'s capital z)

  :q                 quit the current file (usually asks about saving changed buffers)

  :q!                quit the current file and don\'t save (i.e. abort changes)

  :w                 write the current file

  :w!                write forcibily ( for files you own, but have set non-writable)

  :w filename        write to a new file

            

  .                  (period) repeat last command



  o,O                (letter oh) insert line before/after the current line

  

  /                  search for matching regex

                          e.g.   "/ogg[Enter]"



  n,N                go to next/previous  matching regex of last search

There\'s SOOOO much more, but these are enough to just
get something done.



Good luck.

[itnj99]

Sorry, I thought I was at the end of the thread when I posted.  Obviously I wasn\'t!

[TonyOlsen]

Thanks!

[jchung]

all you really need to know about vi is:

a - append to
i - insert to
x - delete
q! - forced quit (when you dont want to save)
w - write
wq - write and quit
**use the cancel button to escape edit mode and THEN you can go to the command window (colon command \":\") **
**use the arrow buttons when in command mode to navigate**

[AnalogTek]

So much hassle just to add a single line to a text file.  I think this is one of the reasons most people are turned off to Linux.

Most current version Linux distributions include a plethora of text editors, including those with a GUI.  The Sharp Zaurus installation is a modified subset of what many would consider a full modern Linux distro.

[jsilve1]

Ugh!  I really don\'t like vi... I tried those commands (from the URL tutorial above) and it wouldn\'t ever let me back into \":\" mode to type \"q!\".  \":q1\" was the first thing I learned in vi, so that I can leave without saving all of the mistakes I just made trying to edit a simple file in this unintuitive help-less gui-less editor program.

* ugh *

I feel like vi bashing, but I will forebear.  I\'m sure it\'s great once you learn all (and I mean ALL) of the commands... but until then, it is a headache.

You really don\'t need to know all of the Vi commands to use Vi.  Just a half dozen basics and one general concept.  Here are my four basic steps to using Vi right away (and you really only need the first three):

1) The main general concept is that Vi is \"modal\". You can only enter text in \"INSERT\" mode, otherwise you are in \"COMMAND\" mode.

2) If you do not know what mode you are in, press <ESC> Twice!  This will always put you in command mode.

3) To enter text (to go int \"INSERT\" mode), press \"i\" or \"a\" and then start typing. \"i\" will enter text BEFORE the cursor and \"a\" will enter text AFTER the cursor.

4) Use \"x\" to delete text in command mode.

That\'s it.  Learn other commands slowly over time; as you are already aware, there are a million.  But with the basics, using Vi is no harder than using Windows Notepad (the suckiest text editor on the planet, I might add).

[jsilve1]

Hah! Ooops, I didn\'t realize that so many others posted on how to use Vi.  Darn paged forums! I guess I\'m used to threaded news readers...