A step ahead (Mail now integrated in KDE-Pim/Pi)

[zautrix]

but real: we helped you - please help us. ok?

Hi Alwin!

Yes, of course!

I think the best solution would be, that we use the same source code.
That means, that I do the integration of OpieMail in KDE-Pim/Pi again
and use everywhere where I change integration Opie - KDE-Pim/Pi a
#ifdef USE_IN_KDEPIM_ENVIRONMENT
// KDE-Pim/Pi specific code
#else
// Opie specific code
#endif

Then I would be able to compile OpieMail
(do you agree on the name KOpieMail for the KDE-Pim/Pi part of Opiemail?)
just by defining USE_IN_KDEPIM_ENVIRONMENT.

After that integration I will integrate my already done changes/enhancements into the code again and you can simply take the changed files and put them in the Opie cvs.
After that we do not have to merge anything, we just work together on the same files.

Would that be ok?

But I think, I can do that not today or tomorrow, but probably in 2 weeks.

Would that be ok?

z.

[bluedevils]

OPIE is one project, OZ is another project (Familiar, OpenSimpad and GPE are another). They are people working on few of them.

just my 0.02

Woops.  Yes that was my lazy error.  I knew the difference.

[Alwin]

(do you agree on the name KOpieMail for the KDE-Pim/Pi part of Opiemail?)

Nomen est omen  real, its your name of the game.

I think the best solution would be, that we use the same source code.
That means, that I do the integration of OpieMail in KDE-Pim/Pi again
and use everywhere where I change integration Opie - KDE-Pim/Pi a
#ifdef USE_IN_KDEPIM_ENVIRONMENT
// KDE-Pim/Pi specific code
#else
// Opie specific code
#endif

I think the most differences will be the gui. on backend side (aka libmailwrapper) should not such a lot of OPIE based stuff. So I think this should just happen in a few files? I think it can be resolved via includes. (I don't know the exact differences, but it should be mostly inside the settings-dialogs - them are strong OPIE-based)

And of course not the next two days  There is a live beside OPIE and KDEPIM  

Details could be done via email I think.

CU

Alwin

[snufkin]

Sorry, but I can't find the files for KOpieMail (or whatever it called) in KDE-Pim/Pi at sourceforge

Where can I download it?

[slocaus]

/rant off

[tg]

As stated earlier, with all the hassles about licensing, zautrux removed it from the site.  Once they get all the &$%#@&%$# solved so no one gets their p****** in wad again, hopefully it will surface.

And yes, I hate this whining, ego, misunderstanding crap, especially when it comes out that the biggest problems were due to most upset person not even reading the thread!  AND it stops work on the most powerful program that I have had the fortune to use on my Zaurus.  Bums me out.

Easy now. Lets try to get over this and move forward.
Now that Zautrix and Alwin were able to patch things up whats the point of
the rest of us still obsessing over this? We may be treated with even
greater things down the road if Zautrix finds effective way to
work with opie guys.

[Alwin]

As stated earlier, with all the hassles about licensing, zautrux removed it from the site.  Once they get all the &$%#@&%$# solved so no one gets their p****** in wad again, hopefully it will surface.

Nice language.

And yes, I hate this whining, ego, misunderstanding crap, especially when it comes out that the biggest problems were due to most upset person not even reading the thread!  AND it stops work on the most powerful program that I have had the fortune to use on my Zaurus.

Well, it seems that you had a little bit missunderstood, but its yours. Zautrix must reorganize his source code not for the opie developers. But for the binaries of openssl and so on. And THIS guys aren't real lucky about if there someone isn't respecting their licence where you have put their sources into the build tree not just binaries. And openssl as a security layer is realy a problem if someone putting just binaries. Words beside: You should never trust a security binary where you don't get the sources it is build from.

And even if you didn't read the last responses: We'll (zautrix and opie) try to setup a system where both  sides are winning. And I think that zautrix/MicroMail will just win when someone is knowing about libetpan (the heart of this mailsoftware) and maintaining it for PDA platform - the first versions we had were not usable on ARM/XSCALE platforms.

You should ever respect this. You should respect that I had seen that there was a big missunderstanding (outside this thread) - you should respect that zautrix said that a cooperation would be a little better for both sides. He can not give the support as single person like a team. But we/I will integrate KDEPIM stuff in OUR buildsystem so YOU will get a real maintained mailer. Whats going wrong? Whats your problem? It cost a little bit time - so what? Btw.: the biggest missunderstanding results due a statement of a guy not knowing enough, not just thinking before writing. It seems that you didn't understood the last postings, too.

@zautrix: Why did you close your downloads? If it would be for OPIE - there where never a problem with that from our side. But you should put the sources of libetpan and openssl into the download area  . And reopen it meanwhile

Ciao

Alwin

[Zuber]

I'm sorry Alwin.

Although I am glad that things are now resolved and that some good might come out of it.

I can simpathize with people being upset with your posts and posting accordingly.

You may not think they have a point or feel you have done anything worth protesting about, but others felt the same about your posts.

Just as you complained and let off steam, so can others...

Steam let off /End Rant

[PowerZ]

Help needed:

I loaded KO/PI version 1.7.7 on y C-750 and in order to get my dates into it, I have to Synchronize from the built in Calendar.  Is this version the same or has that been enhanced to sysnc directly with Outlook via Intellisync?  


If I wish to try Zaurus version of this enhanced product, does anyone have step-by-step instructions for what to load where and when?  I ask as I can't afford to loose any data.

[bluedevils]

If you can't afford to lose data, then I suggest backing up before doing any upgrades.  If you are able to sync with outlook now , then I would also suggest syncing just before you are to upgrade.

AFAIK, the korganizer part of the kde pims still syncs with the sharp calendar.  The kaddressbook does not yet sync with the sharp PIMs.  The step by step instructions are in the help section of the new versions.  Basically the data and config files have a new location.  BTW upgrading the kde pim to the latest will not erase your old data files.  If it doesn't work, then you should be able to revert back to the older version no problems.

[TonyOlsen]

Like slocaus, I am also encountering the Error 39 Initializing Folder error.  I wrote more about it on this post <here> .  Does anyone know what the problem/solution is?

Thanks in advance!