Sl-6000l On Amazon For $300 Right Now!

[adf]

Things that failed to ring a bell based on my prior knowledge of fraud:

Apparently you can get a 12 month rating with one transaction over a period of a few minutes.
-ver misleading--- amazon's screw-up.

I paid through amazon.... I expect fraud to be through escrow or western union or money order.....or even credit card or wire...  good and bad. It lent false respectability, but is does guarantee the safety of my money (for wich I am thankful)

Amazon's "new and used" is a sort of recommendation from amazon.. a "look here this is good"  Very different from an auction, and I think should carry greater weight. certainly it carried weight with me.

Amazon's shipping confirmation email.  Is just bs, but could allay suspicions till a criminal had goten safely away.


I looked at the overall rating in at-a-glance, saw 12 months was sound, saw that I could pay through amazon and completed the transaction--thinking it was all cool.  Was this careless or was I somewhat misled?

[Bill Essig]

ADF and I are in the chat. Others join...

[bgsfh]

This is not an isolated incident.  I watched the SL 6000s go down to $400 the first time and back up with a lot of frustration.  I wanted to upgrade from my SL 5500 for a while, but I didn't have the money.  When I got the money, I jumped on the first sale I saw on Amazon for less.  On Nov. 5th someone using the acount name kevinkassebaum posted an SL 6000L for $390 when the Amazon store price was $499.  They were a new seller with no feedback.  I took the plunge knowing that I was taking a risk of tying my money up for a couple of months if it was a scam.  I ordered and nothing happened.  I got no reply emails and nothing shipped.  I filed my A to Z(aurus) claim and am waiting for resolution from Amazon.  

I would bet there is a fair amount of fraud like this on Amazon and other e-tailers.  Amazon's  policy of lowering and raising prices sets up a clientel of people who are willing to take risks to get expensive items at the previous lower prices.  Someone who reads News.com or The Register would not have a hard time keeping track on which gadgets are being droped from distrubution and clearanced on a regular basis.  The old saw about a deal that looks too good to be true holds up well here.  

I did buy a SL 6000L from the Amazon store when they went down to $379 (WoW lookit the screen, and with the sled, it is _truly_ HUGE, froth, drool, froth, drool pant pant pant _breath_).  I would say to all who wanted a SL 6000L at $300 to get one on Amazon or Ebay now or in the next month or two and be willing to spend $400 to $450 or so.  Otherwise, we as_a_community should try to set up a group buy of the SL 6000_W_ through Pricejapan or some other importer once the bluetooth drivers are cracked.  

But that is just my opinion.

[adf]

yeah, I'd go another hundred aftyer I get my 300 back

[wizzard]

So can we set up a group buy?

[adf]

for after the refund bonanza? works for me
amazon oughtta help out too...

[wizzard]

How to set it up?

[PZee]

  Otherwise, we as_a_community should try to set up a group buy of the SL 6000_W_ through Pricejapan or some other importer once the bluetooth drivers are cracked. 

Good luck getting that for 400-450 though, the thing is on pricejapan now for  USD $874!

(That's with shipping and taxes etc.)

[adf]

dude the 6000 was a us release
 400 or so

7-800 for a 3000 japan model
pricejapan is not the place to look for 6ks

[adf]

O the w
hmmm
hmm
 that might be pricey

[wizzard]

6KW model runs above $800 from Pricejapan.

[adf]

rather have a 3000 for that price
I don't have any bluetooth

[adf]

anybody talk to amazon today?
did theymention yak hair?

[adf]

they sent me a reasonable letter.
In reply I asked if they would consider brokering a group discount purchase using the refund money. Any one else want to encourage this?

here its the letter:
Amazon.com Customer Service wrote:

>Thank you for writing to Amazon.com.
>
>I have reviewed our previous correspondence with you, and I offer my
>sincere apologies for any misunderstanding thus far.
>
>I'm very sorry to learn that you've had a negative ordering
>experience with one of our Amazon Marketplace sellers.
>
>We understand that you have not received your order, also, we are
>aware of that this seller is not active with us.
>
>Please note that currently our system does not allows us to process A-
>Z Guarantee Claim on your behalf until your estimated delivery date +
>3 business days have passed .  Therefore, I would request you to
>please contact Amazon.com again after December 29, 2004 using the
>special URL below:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/more-info?comm_id=&q=mkp1
>
>I can understand that this is a bit frustrating to wait till that
>length of time, but the delivery estimate for this item in your
>account is December 24, 2004.  Therefore, we have asked you to wait
>for three additional business days.  This additional period will give
>us the time to take right actions upon your order, under this
>situation so that this matter is resolved to your fullest
>satisfaction.  
>
>When we receive a report from you using the form above, we will
>investigate the status of your order and take any actions available
>to us to resolve the problem.
>
>Further, we are not able to share customer account information or
>status, and we include Marketplace sellers among our customers.  
>However, please know that we do take the feedback and performance
>records of sellers very seriously.  We monitor seller performance and
>take administrative measures on an account when warranted.
>
>Though we are unable to share account details for jpettins@yahoo.com,
>it is worth noting that this seller's feedback profile indicates they
>have no open sales listings. You can confirm this by viewing the
>profile online.  Just visit your order summary in Your Account, and
>click on the seller's nickname for more information.  Links within
>the seller's Member Profile will indicate whether any open listings
>exist.
>
>Please note that it is possible for buyers to leave feedback for a
>seller even when the seller is no longer active.
>
>Again, please know how sorry I am that this experience has been a
>disappointment.  We appreciate your choice of Amazon.com and hope
>that you'll feel comfortable returning to our site in the future.
>
>We here at Amazon customer service continuously strive to assist the
>customers in each and every way can and feel disappointed when we are
>unable to address customer's concerns.  I hope you can understand our
>limitations.  
>
>I wish you better luck in any future transactions on our site.  Thank
>you for choosing Amazon.com.
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Syed Samir
>Amazon.com Customer Service
>http://www.amazon.com  
>==============================
>Check your order and more: http://www.amazon.com/your-account
>


I guess this covers my requirement. He is a fraud and they know, as I read this. I expect a refund by the 1st week of Jan.
I hope we can arrange a good deal and turn this into a merely delayed 6000z

anyone?

[ambience713]

Guys. I think you guys will be better off by filing charge back with your credit cards ASAP. I had a bad experience with Paypal/Ebay (yeah, full guaranty my a$$), and am feeling that if you wait too long, you'll lose your dispute right.

The law is on your side, so take care.