Messages

1

General Discussion / Nokia Buy Trolltech

« on: January 31, 2008, 07:26:33 pm »

interesting, I wonder if this means we'll see an official port of qtopia to the nokia tablets?

There is already device configuration for n800 in the Qtopia sources. Although, it is far from finished and has lots of missing things.

2

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2

« on: June 03, 2007, 03:55:35 am »

Hi, Potter. Since you are back, would you mind telling me how get a shell on a Mylo?
Thanks
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=162441\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Not real sure, I don't have one to even try.

3

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2

« on: June 03, 2007, 03:54:12 am »

I will work on getting qtopia 4 into oe. Right now it's just manually copying the Qtopia file system onto the machine.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=162439\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

that'd be great!


now, if you want to be a real miracle worker, just persuade Sharp to build all their proprietary applications against qtopia4 and we're all very happy.  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=162440\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Unfortunately, Sharp has given up on Linux, Zaurus and Qtopia.

4

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:01:46 pm »

Opera already runs in Qtopia 4, it's just not available.

[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=162399\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Hey, Mr Potter, hope you're well, long time no see.

How would we go about making Opera available then? Are you permitted to reveal who has it running? My guess is that it's Nokia, a version for the N800.

Greenphone
Not sure if partner's stuff will get released.

Any chance of a qtopia4 ROM based on Angstrom.. or an IPK to run on top of the base angstrom-console variant?

thanks
Paul
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=162438\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I will work on getting qtopia 4 into oe. Right now it's just manually copying the Qtopia file system onto the machine.

5

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:34:28 am »

doesn't seem to be, no mention of opie on angstrom site.

can't see why they can't just build qtopia4. OK, so it's not totally open, but hey, it beats having to write it all yourself, huh?

if qt(opia)4 were available in a stable form on Zaurus, then maybe just maybe Opera people could be persuaded to do a port?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=160989\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Opera already runs in Qtopia 4, it's just not available.

6

Qt/Qtopia / Greenphone Developer Challenge

« on: April 16, 2007, 02:38:08 pm »

Trolltech announces a Greenphone Developer challenge!

More details here:
http://www.trolltech.com/developer/tt/gpdevchallenge

7

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2 Or Opie Ii (with Link)

« on: January 30, 2007, 10:34:59 pm »

I have been contributing to and being part of the Opie project since its beginning, though I have quit a while ago.
The OpieII tree has nothing to do with Opie I except its name and its origin.

and a few developers.

The reason why Opie(I) had been forked once was because it was not possible to get community control over Qtopia. TrollTech owns it and any improvements one would like to see to be done must make ther way through the the TT processes. There is nothing wrong with that except that part of this process is that TT is the the only one who decides what is an improvement worth including or not and that due to the dual licensing scheme the developer of the code in question gives up all his rights on his intellectual property and transfers them to TT.
There had been several dicussions and meeting with the TT management and developers but none of those solved this issue.
An issue which remains even with Opie II.
For a developer this is disappointing because the chances that his work is rejected by TT is high.
TT is a company with profit in mind so the rules are sometimes contradictory to the
pure open source approach.

Qtopia is "pure" open source, just no community development, which is why OpieII was started. Same reason as why Opie 1 was started.

Personally I doubt this. To have a PDA profile in the pipeline TT needs a potential customer for a Linux PDA. I have not seen arising such one lately, instead the phone/smart phone market is increased a lot.
What are requestin is something to keep your Z alive but this is propably not on the official TT whish list.

OpieII/Qtopia 4 can be used on any device. There is no difference between the phone profile, and a pda profile.

I have been working on Qtopia 4/OpieII for Zaurus, but my time is stretched thin, especially having a young son who does not allow me to have much time to myself. Development of this should increase in the coming months, as I am changing to Software Engineer in the hardware group, instead of doing community management/marketing work.

8

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2 Or Opie Ii (with Link)

« on: January 30, 2007, 10:27:15 pm »

Don't know really. I am talking about the Opie II SVN tree, this is what they have. I couldn't find anywhere they were going to port the old environment forward, I would like to know their plans... any opie developer here?

But it's my humble opinion that is better to synergy with Trolltech (as KDE does) instead of fork from it far away. And even you have to think there is not as many Opie developers as KDE has. Qtopia phones can benefit from Opie apps and Opie PDAs could benefit phones apps as well, all people happy and dancing.

Maybe Trolltech has a PDA profile/interface in their pipeline, do they, Lorne?

Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts.

Thanks all.

Porting of Opie 1 to Qt 4 is probably not going to happen. There are a great many changes involved and would require many man hours which we do not have. It would be easier to rewrite it. Which is why OpieII exists.

OpieII can be used on a PDA, there really isn't a 'phone' profile, or 'pda' profile.

9

Angstrom & OpenZaurus / Opie2 Or Opie Ii (with Link)

« on: January 21, 2007, 11:12:26 pm »

The screenshots on the site are cool. I kinda have always liked the look and feel of qtopia, but this really looks good! I certainly this gets into a ROM image.

Chris--
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=151979\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

This would require participation of developers and someone to add OpieII to openembedded.

10

General Discussion / Whatever Happened To Trolltech Rom

« on: January 18, 2007, 09:34:37 pm »

some time ago there was a kind of demo/showcase ROM made my Trolltech.

seems to have disappeared.

shame really, as it showed some promise, albeit incompatible with original Sharp or Cacko, and somewhat based on OZ.

perhaps lpotter finally had enough of the irritating trolltech flame-baiters
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=146681\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

The qtopia 2 based roms should still be available, and yes, Qtopia 4 roms should become available at some point.

11

SIMpad forum / Touchscreen Suddenly Doesn't Work On Simpad

« on: January 13, 2007, 11:56:54 pm »

I have one that the digitizer went wonky and I cannot calibrate it anymore. Gives bad points that are all over the place. It just gathers dust now.

12

General Discussion / Peoples Experience Taking Notes

« on: December 05, 2006, 05:47:27 pm »

Qtopia 4 open source edition will include the full screen input methods.

13

General Discussion / New Zaurus

« on: October 11, 2006, 05:17:43 am »

update- I can already see it does not run qtopia.
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=143580\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

Well, if it ain't running Qtopia, it ain't a Zaurus, full stop.  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=143636\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

So the c700 on my desk and the 5600, c1000 and c3000 I used last week aren't zaurusses?
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=143711\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

He was specifically meaning this new Sharp device, which looks very much like a Zaurus, but does not ship with Qtopia, hence it is not a Zaurus. All those Zaurus devices on your desk came out of the factory with Qtopia installed, which I am sure you are aware. So, if it wasn't for Qtopia, they probably wouldn't be on your desk in the first place.

14

Software / Nand Vs. Flashing Scripts

« on: September 21, 2006, 02:09:53 pm »

because with a bad NAND restore, you can really bork your device. Not like a bad flash, which you can always recover from.

15

New products and alternatives / Open Linux Mobile Phone By Trolltech

« on: September 16, 2006, 04:46:14 pm »

The Greenphone hasn't even been delivered yet, and is the most open mobile phone out there.

Excellent. I really welcome this step from Trolltech!

In the near future there will be more completely open source phones appearing (hint hint...) and the more the merrier it is for the open source movement.

If it wasn't for competing phone software stacks with fragmentation et. al., I'd welcome all this 100%...

*shrug* Let the most open system win...  
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=141542\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

I am quite sure the carriers and operators are paranoid about "open" telephony stacks, not to mention the regulations involved... Most phones are subsidized by the operators/carrier, which is one reason why they can be so inexpensive.