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Off Topic forum / Ipod Touch Vs. Nokia N800

« on: December 15, 2007, 02:02:25 pm »

Apart from the showmanship  factor for both devices .. on a serious comparison note - we have to give Apple the credit for raising the bar of what a Cell phone ought to be and for the excellent UI.

But having said that - between the iPod Touch and the Nokia N800, the N800 beats the touch out of the water.
In fact I would compare the N800 with the Iphone - where excepting the GSM phone , the Nokia IT excels in every other department.

The Nokia IT (N800, N810) can do Voice theu Voip excellently - Skype, Gizmo, Gtalk, all supported.
Connectivity they Wiwfi, And Bluetooth and USB cabling  (Ipod touch only does Wifi and has a crippled Bluetooth)
Open platform on the Nokia IT - much more open than Appale can ever make the Iphone or Touch to be (SDK or no SDK)
GPS and hardware keyboard on N810 - well even though thread is about N800, the N810 should also be considered.
Excellent battery life of Nokia IT's - I have it running and connected to home Wifi for 2 days running (always on state).
Some software does the Iphone UI experince vis-a-vis Intertial scrolling etc (its not device centric though like the Touch - Apple beats the Nokia IT's here. Many apps on Nokia does have finger support though.
(check out a demo of Canola to see what I mean - http://marceloeduardo.blip.tv/file/541526/)

Browser experinece is the best - Flash support included (and not only UTube like the Touch or iPhone).
Memory expandibily theu SD/MicroSD card support and slots (2 in N800, 1 in N810).
Replaceble battery in Nokia IT's.
Larger better screen on the Nokia IT's (I held my N810 beside an Iphone and the N810 certainly looks better).
Inclusion of external speakers on the Nokia IT (in fact I play songs off the N810 on my car while driving with GPS on ..dont know if Touch has it)


Feature for feature - the Nokia IT's are a much better deal than the Iphone or touch.

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Off Topic forum / Ipod Touch Vs. Nokia N800

« on: December 14, 2007, 12:08:36 pm »

I am replying to this thread from my new Nokia N810.
from users perspective, this insanely tiny and powerful gatget more than suffices to meet normal user's internet access via wireless LAN, bluetooth connectivity by GPRA  over phone with BT, USB connectivity with GPRS over phone.

The N800 is the same as the N810 sans the keyboard and the built-in GPS on the N810.

the multimedia playback is good and for some apps also  have inertial scrolling like the iPod Touch.
and right now i am replying thu BT high speed data connectivity thru my cheap BT phone.

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: December 03, 2007, 05:28:27 pm »

I just came across this
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/software-development/

QT for the OS2008 (the OS for N810 and N800 devices).
The home page doesnt still show anything for the project as yet ... if true this is too good to be true ..
Does this imply that all Zaurus apps (or most)  can be ported to the N810 also ?

That would be great - to have the best of both worlds - QT and Hildon GTK apps on the same device. Dont know about performance though.

Still tweaking ny new N810 to perfection - but I giess I will have to give this a try to install at least.

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: December 03, 2007, 05:23:14 pm »

Thanks MARS ...

I ultimately got it to import the Vcards from the Zaurus. Seems like one entry was the culprit with some invalid field value ... the rest of them imported fine after some experimentation - with both Contacts and Calendar.

But sadly the PIM on Nokia is no match with KoPi and Kapi.

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: December 03, 2007, 05:21:14 pm »

I realize I'm pure evil for posting this, but dell is selling the N800 for 75$ off for the next couple days.

Woah, for a moment I read that as Dell is selling it for $75 and I instaltly jumped up and went to the site looking up for a $75 N800. Alas, that was not to be - its for $199 after a $75 off.
Actually many retailers (Buy.com) also had it for $199 for quite sime time (and for Black Friday).

I can't justify another N800 to wifey, after the N810  - but could have if it was for $75     - with enough love  to go with it  

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 27, 2007, 12:14:10 pm »

Well, I ran into a stumbling block  with the N810... couldn't import the Zaurus exported KoPi and Kapi contacts and Calendar files and import it back in GPE Calendar and GPE contacts on the N810. DAMN !

Now, me thinks I have to stick with the Zaurus some more time .. in fact just put in back on charge ... :-)

But on the other hand the N810 works fantastic as a connecction device (auto connmects to my home Wifi while at home, or else autoconnects to my GRPS over phone via bluetooth. Voip is pretty good - I used Gtalk and Gizmo.
Even found my shared drives (without needing any tweaking) and I can wirelessly transfer files to/from my desktop.
Overall the software feels much more finished for the end-user unlike the Zaurus which could (and still can) do more potentially, but required much more tweaking and modifiying conf files here and there.

Actually now that I dont use the GPS much on the N810 and the keyborad is nowhere near the Zaurus - I feel maybe I could downgrade to the N800 (whch runs the same software now) and save myself around $200 bucks.
Ha - decisions and decisions ...

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 25, 2007, 07:15:03 pm »

True - from what I have been catching up on on the Nokia Tablet forums - it seems the there were a lot of API changes in the new OS2008 (os for N810 that also works for N800) which broke a lot of the apps that were there for N800 on the older OS.

The N700 got dumped - development wise, so yes that is indeed a valid complaint toward Nokia. Again as per Nokia developers (and this is a good thing with Nokia unlike Sharp - ther devs hang around and answer on forums), the enhanced API while breaking some functionality, does add a lot more value - but again I dont know enough about it..

Now with the N810 - I am still waiting for Skype on the new OS (it works fine on N800 on OS2007 supposedly).
Also there is no VNC, mplayer (works with workarounds), stable python (pymaemo), and Python based apps (like UKMP) etc still working out of the box on the N810.

Agin the new OS is faster (so they say) and also widgets can be drigged around on the screen (really smooth), there is kinetic scrolling (like iPhone) on various OS2008 apps (like Mauku (Jailu client), Kagumusic player etc). The Kinetic scrolling is pretty nice and smooth too :-)

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 23, 2007, 09:43:34 am »

I already got mine in hand ... and biy, is it cool indeed .
The finish is very good - brushed metal finish. The keyboard of course doesnt come close to the Zaurus keyboard. Its a but hard also, but functional.

The screen is Wow! As for the real software - its good - functional and neatly arranged. Have been playing all day long since I got it ... Sadly all the N800 software (for OS2007) has still not been ported to OS2008 for Nokia N810 as yet.

But I installed GPE calendar and contacts to get a PIM replacement  - as I can't be using both a Zaurus and the 810.
VoiP and Chat works very well, as its is built for that. There are some pretty good tools - a tool to Sync with Google calendar - thats a must for me. Browsing on the 810 itself is absolutely a painless experience (so far).

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 16, 2007, 02:42:27 pm »

Just ordered my N810 - its out for sale ftrom Nokia themselves as well as on pre-order from many retailers like Amazon themselves.

Got the best deal from Nokia - they added a $75 discount to make the price at $405 with free shipping too.

The Nokia Sales dept number is 888.665.4228 Option 1, option 2, option 1. Here are the details:
http://tabletblog.com/2007/11/n810-now-available-kinda.html

Quick edit : sorry - just read the thred fully, and also got the follow up call from "Nokia" to verify the adress etc.
Now they say its backordered and will ship on Nov 26th.
Also it seems they are representing Nokia, but its not actually Nokia sales itself. They should have made that clear before itself.

Anyways, still have my order with them - since its cheaper than all else.

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General Discussion / Garnet Vm For Zaurus?

« on: November 14, 2007, 08:19:03 pm »

Yeah, I do agree that I overplayed the DEAD  factor there ... of course I am definite we will see Palm back - sometime, if ever.
But for now it is as good as dead - they haven't been able to release anything (software wise - with or without Access) for God knows how long.

And hardware wise, trying just isnt as good as getting there - not yet.
But you have to agree that compared to the Palm of yore, Palm today seems like a spent force - hope it comes back - good for competition always.

Anyways, we digressed - hope this Garnet VM is a demo for better things to come from Palm - on Linux platform, that has been promised for so long.

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General Discussion / Garnet Vm For Zaurus?

« on: November 14, 2007, 05:00:58 pm »

Of course - apart from Apps, PALM is not relevant in any way now.
But even for the apps - as a VM, the palsm apps can't really talk to the other Nokia apps in any way. They are sandboxed in their own VM space.  That takes away a lot from the advantage I think.

But again - I never used Palm apps so much - so maybe I don't see the advantage pf getting them old-dear-loved-apps back in any form or shape, and can't appreciate the value-add, if any.

And while any hardware is indeed about how you use it - I think Palm has failed to leverage the newer hardware specs (better screens, better resolutions, processor power etc) to make the Palm platform more versatile (and useful). Ultimately that has been the reason for Palm's demise.
(and to prove the point - the Garnet VM does not use the hardware potential of the Nokia tablet at all. It still runs in its
320x something screen and does not stretch to the full screen size of the Nokia tablet).

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 14, 2007, 04:53:38 pm »

sell it off as quick as you bought it ...  :-)

The n810 is just around he corner - from market gossip ...

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General Discussion / Garnet Vm For Zaurus?

« on: November 14, 2007, 12:58:57 pm »

Can't imagine a Z-ite to be interested in Palm apps (or Garnet).
I mean, seriosuly who would consider running 320xwhatever apps on a 800x600 screen, and that too from Palm ?

Palm IS dead, as far as tech-interest is concerned.

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Nokia Tablet / Nokia N810

« on: November 13, 2007, 10:34:59 pm »

I am going for the N810 too - my Zaurus replacemernt and in-car GPS device too.

Niiiiiccccce !

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General Discussion / C1000 Owner Looking For Something Faster

« on: October 19, 2007, 01:35:13 pm »

Since you want power and not pocketability, how about a U10 ?

Heard its small enough to be thumb typeable - but maybe not light enough.