What is the best Zaurus E-mail program?

[TonyOlsen]

...but I like my SUV e-mail program.    

Can the new pine do inline graphics and sound?  How embedded video and color?

I'm sure the thunderbird discussion has been here before somewhere but I couldn't find it.  Is it because it reall hasn't been discused before or do people just not like it that much?  ...or has noone ever thought of running Thunderbird on the Zaurus before?

Specifically, I'm thinking of the following arangement:

Linux Live CD (with Mozilla thunderbird, Firefox and Sunbird on maybe Knoppix) with a USB SD card adapter and my SD card.  All of the e-mail and settings are on the card and I card view and download new e-mail from any computer I happen to be at (using the live Linux CD) and my Zaurus.  It's my new idea of mobility... or was it "Nobility"?  

It's interesting that so much time is spent trying to get PDA programs to act more like desktop programs... and yet there often isn't the thought of simply taking the desktop programs and running them directly on the PDA itself.  That's the beauty of Linux PDA's! (especially the one with VGA screens, huge harddrives, 400+ MHz processors, and clamshell keyboards...     )

I'm using Firefox, Thunderbird, and while soon be using Sunbird on my desktop.  Forget about the world of "syncing" PDAs with the desktop and instead let the PDA BECOME the desktop.      

...or am I alone in my dream?  

[tovarish]

...but I like my SUV e-mail program.     

Can the new pine do inline graphics and sound?  How embedded video and color?

sorry didnt mean to be condescending. i use thunderbird in my laptop but with images off . on the road i need quick load times and just the text of my mails.

i think my post was an accurate expression of my opinion to the topic. ymmv

tovarish

[xjqian]

For functionality:
i telnet to my school account and use Pine to send and forward emails. If there's anything worth archiving locally, I use the default sharp email program.

For Pleasure:
Thunderbird in the x/qt debian enviroment looks nice and receiving email (IMAP or POP3) is fast enough, if you don't mind the 1-2min thunderbird start up time. But when you try to send or forward, it's painfully slow because it going to pop up another window, which is heavy for the x/qt debian. I only use it occasionally.

Somewhere in between:
Sypheeld(-claws) in the x/qt debian is a lite email solution. Sypheeld to Thunderbird kinda like Dillo to Firefox. Haven't tried it much. But seems all the features are there. But again not as fast as telnet+Pine.

[suruaZ]

I use mutt. Quick stat up time, small size, very flexible.

suruaZ

[nilch]

Nobody seems to have mentioned OMPI - of the KDEPim suite from zautrix.

The KDEPIM contains the KO/PI, KA/PI and OMPI. OMPI is the email component - of course you can use all integrated together (OMPI fetches email addresses of contacts from KA/PI - the addressbook), or independantly.

While OMPI does work flawlessly with POP3 and IMAP too (I use it for POP3 emails), there are some desgin flaws, or rather some design differences from other common email programs (like the Srap email program itself).

But if you adjust to the differences, then you are fine. It is fast, loads up very fast and is equivalent to the Sharp email prog, though personally the Sharp email prog is better in overall design and functionality while I feel the OMPI needs some ironing out before it become that intuitive. The only thing is the Sharp email only communicated with the default Sharp DTM based addressbook and not with KA/PI which is a better addressbook.

Note : works with the Sharp compatible ROM's - not with the X/QT i believe.

[ev1l]

I really like the KDEPIM suite, but Kopiemail is really broken (as of 2.0.12)
IMAP was broken a couple of versions ago, and my single POP3 server will not work (works in Kmail on SuSE, QTMail and Thunderbird).
The interface is also pretty awkward to me.
My preference on the Z is QTmail simply because it does what it's supposed to (can't say as much about the other default PIM apps). Doesn't seem to integrate with the KDEPIM suite though

[g333]

Can I check hotmail with any of these? If so could you tell me the settings? Thank you

[nilch]

Does Hotmail give any POP3 access (like Gmail) ?

If not then I dont think any of these can work with Hotmail (except using the Opera browser itself)

[chrget]

Does Hotmail give any POP3 access (like Gmail) ?

If not then I dont think any of these can work with Hotmail (except using the Opera browser itself)
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Nothing that couldn't be fixed by doing a port of [a href=\"http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net/]hotwayd/hotsmtpd the POP3/SMTP to HTTPMail gateway daemons[/url].

Best regards,
Chris.

[ZDevil]

I really wish there was a way to highlight emails and delete the selected emails without opening them.  But I haven't figured out a way to do it.  Otherwise, the Sharp email program is fine.
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Yes, it's already there.  Just go to Options --> Set multiSelect Mode.  You can select as many messages as you want and delete them all in one go!

Still I find QtMail smoother and more stable than KOpieMail.  That's also the reason why I am still sticking with Sharp ROM, though pdaXrom is becoming more and more tempting...

Forget about the world of "syncing" PDAs with the desktop and instead let the PDA BECOME the desktop.       
...or am I alone in my dream?  
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No, you are not alone.  I got no desktop/laptop at home now (a rented room in an old house actually) and have been working on my C860 only, then exchange files with my office PC via usb or email.  I use QtMail, TextMaker and KO/Pi so heavily that my Z becomes a genuine portable office in one hand (perhaps in a pocket too)!


     

Just one question: What is the most efficient way to send email data stored on memory cards back to desktop email client (such as Outlook Express)?

[g333]

Chris, there wasn't an IPK on that page. Could you help me set up any program to read hotmail? Opera can read the webpages but not send mail. Netfront can read and send but not attatch stuff.

[chrget]

Chris, there wasn't an IPK on that page. Could you help me set up any program to read hotmail?
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Uhm, the fact that there is no IPK on that page is stating the obvious -- that's
why I wrote doing a port of, not installing. As for helping, I'm afraid I'm
lacking the resources needed to do so.

For one, building hotwayd requires a whole bunch of prerequisites (AFAIK an
iconv-enabled libxml2 and Cyrus SASL which in itself might need some prereqs
to build that I am not aware of -- so far I've only built hotwayd on a desktop Linux
system with a fairly good software environment), which most likely turns the
building process into a day long exercise if you want to do it for the Z.

Since I personally have no need for it on the Z itself, putting in that kind of effort
is not really justifiable given my schedule, and even if I did, I probably couldn't
come up with enough time to package it into something easily installed and
usable, let alone supporting it.

On top of that I wouldn't be able to do much in the way of testing, as I only have
access to an SL-5500 and none of the larger/later models (i.e. like you C-3000).

As for my post, I just wanted to give a pointer for people unaware of the fact
that yes, Hotmail access can indeed be done using a regular POP3/IMAP
client with the appropriate software installed -- even on the Z.

Best regards,
Chris.

[sdjf]

i use pine, fast and functional, using thunderbird is like driving an suv in rush hour traffic

tovarish
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Sounds really good.  But there's a catch.  

A friend fixed pine_4.55.arm.ipk for me so it would install on my sl5500 running Sharp 2.38, but he said it will be confusing to use on the Z's tiny console.  

I'm disabled with the Z being my only computer access.  

Has anyone recompiled / tweaked it to work well on ROM 2.38 or 3.1x?  
Recompiling and major tweaking are beyond my ability to learn right now.

Also, can someone tell me how it compares to mutt and qtmail?  I've looked through the manual and am I correct in understanding it only does IMAP and not POP?

Thanks for any assistance,

sdjf

[dfisher]

Hi all,

The biggest problem with QtMail on the Sharp ROM is it's lack of support for SSL.  Almost all mail services (even gMail) are using this today, making the app unusable.  If there's a way to enable SSL please let me know, but I'm pretty sure you can't.

Doug

[maslovsky]

Hi all,

The biggest problem with QtMail on the Sharp ROM is it's lack of support for SSL.  Almost all mail services (even gMail) are using this today, making the app unusable.  If there's a way to enable SSL please let me know, but I'm pretty sure you can't.

Doug
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SSL is easily supported though using stunnel. I've been using gmail with QTMail for months now.