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General Discussion / Zaurus As A Laptop/desktop

« on: January 11, 2005, 01:45:42 pm »

My SL-6000L has replaced my home desktop.  I still have 3 servers running but know one of them has a monitor and it does not run X.  

With a usb hub on the 6k I have hooked up usb hard drives, usb cd-rw(HP-8220 added kernel module to make this work), usb network adapter (Hawking HUF11), usb keyboards, and usb mice.  I have not used the cd-rw for a while since I usually just place cd's in one of my servers and access the cd that way.

It took a while to get to uses to using a 640x480 screen again, but I now do more on my Zaurus then I do with any other computer I uses.  Most of the time I use my Targus IR keyboard instead of my logitech Wireless  keyboard, but the logitech does get used at home when I want to have the natural feel.  I looked into the vga out from the Z and finally decided that was not really an option at this time.  The cf interface is to slow on any of the current Z to be worth while and I have not found a way to get svideo out over usb so that I could plug my Z into my TV.

One thing I have to admit is the my Z replace a k6-400 desktop so to me the Z was an upgrade.  Also the main things I uses my computers for are ssh, web browsing, IM, and redsktop.  The Z does all of this for me.

The Z can be a desktop replacement but most of it depends on what you want and what you are uses to.

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General Discussion / Sl-6000 Or S-c760

« on: December 28, 2004, 11:12:42 pm »

Being a SL-6000L Owner with a Targus Keyboard I have found the 6K to be a great laptop replacement for me.  I do have to say I find the cxx0 to be much more sexy and better felling in my hand when they do not have a WiFi card in them.  I Uses my wifi card most of the time when I am using my Z and is the main reason I went with the 6k over the c760.  Since I have got my Z I have found I really like the usb host since I can plug in my Logitech Natural Keyboard, my Usb Harddrive, and my USB ethernet card.  But I would still have to say that if a clam had builtin wifi I think I would go for that since i like to have both a cf and sd card in at the same time...

The targus is a most with the 6k if you want to do alot of typing.  I uses the builtin keyboard when I am sending ims or just surfing the web but I uses the targus when I am sshed into one of my servers working.  For me having the 6k in my pocket and the keyboard in one of my coat pockets I can do my work from anywhere I can get wifi.  I will admit I even carry my power cord in one of the pockets of my bikers jacket so I have big pockets so carrying things like that is not much of a problem for me...it is easier then carrying my laptop and power cords for it...

But that is just my opinion...it all comes back to what you plan on doing most often with your Z...any of them are great machines...

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6000 - Tosa / OpenZaurus, OZ on the 6000

« on: December 21, 2004, 01:49:50 pm »

Well since I am the brave sole that was willing to say I got OpenZaurus running on the SL-6000L Back in August I guess I shoudl put my opinions here...

My opinion would be that OZ on the SL-6000L is not ready for the common user.  I would not wish most of the troubles I go through on a daily basis on anyone unless they are willing to work with those problems.

Now with that said I would recommend anyone that is willing to take the time and try OZ go for it and find a problem and fix it.  This is what I did.  I just had no one to tell me that I was not going to turn my $600 handheld, one years worth a savings, into a brick.  I was willing to see if I could make X work on my Z so that I could run Firefox to be able to read my email through webmail on our exchange server at work(I never figured out how to make it work in Opera).

I have to admit that I flash from bootstrap to OZ/gpe to OZ/opie to Sharp to grantrom on a regular basis and can make all of them usable for me, but then again I run at console most of the time since ssh the the main thing I uses my Z for.

I guess the one thing people have to remeber is that OpenZaurus 3.5.x is a development version.  Hopefully most of the bugs will be fixed byt the time 3.6.0 comes out, but this requires people being willing to find those bugs and document them.  Though i also relieze that people like me need to document how those brave soles that are willing can backup their current Sharp rom, flash to the different OZ roms and then how to flash back to sharp rom and restore from backup(I will try to get this up on http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org over the holiday vacation)

So to state my opinion again, OpenZaurus is usable but not by the average person, opie is almost there but gpe needs alot of work.

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6000 - Tosa / OpenZaurus, OZ on the 6000

« on: December 21, 2004, 01:15:49 pm »

I have worked my way through most of the problems that I've come across but am stuck on the whole suspend/resume thing and I've noticed it referred to previously but with no posted solution.

Any suggestions?

The way I may gpe suspend is by running "apm -s" from the console.  The only real issue I have with doign this is that it always logs me out, but that is better then rebooting every time.  Other then that I have not found much to get around the suspend problem.

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6000 - Tosa / OpenZaurus, OZ on the 6000

« on: December 09, 2004, 04:20:18 pm »

Open a terminal and try  /etc/init.d/networking start .  That should get your wireless working, I havn't been able to get wep to work though.

you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and add the networks you want to connect to.  here is what I have in my interfaces file:

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iface wlan0 inet dhcp
  pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
  pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
  post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
  post-down rmmod prism2_usb

iface vmlgrant inet dhcp
   wireless-type wlan-ng
   wireless-mode ad-hoc
   wireless-essid vmlgrant
   wireless-enc on
   wlan-ng-default-key-id 0
   wlan-ng-key0 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key1 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key2 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key3 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
   pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
   post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
   post-down rmmod prism2_usb

iface grant inet dhcp
   wireless-type wlan-ng
   wireless-mode infrastructure
   wireless-essid grant
   pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
   pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
   post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
   post-down rmmod prism2_usb

iface airport1 inet dhcp
   wireless-type wlan-ng
   wireless-mode infrastructure
   wireless-essid airport1
   pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
   pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
   post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
   post-down rmmod prism2_usb


iface acad inet dhcp
   wireless-type wlan-ng
   wireless-mode infrastructure
   wireless-essid vmlgrant
   wireless-enc on
   wlan-ng-default-key-id 0
   wlan-ng-key0 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key1 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key2 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   wlan-ng-key3 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
   pre-up modprobe prism2_usb
   pre-up /sbin/usbctl on 1
   post-down /sbin/usbctl off 1
   post-down rmmod prism2_usb
I can then uses ifup wlan0=vmlgrant and ifdown wlan0=vmlgrant to work with the interface if I want to specify the interface I want ot use...though I have found ifup wlan0 finds the networks avalible and connects to them if it can.

Hope that helps.

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6000 - Tosa / Is The Sl-6000l Worth It?

« on: December 02, 2004, 04:37:20 pm »

nevarrie,
How did you manage to get the CD-Rom working?  I have had no success whatsoever. What brand is your Rom and how did you have to install or force any modules and how did you mount it?  Every other usb storage device I have tried easily mounts via /dev/sda1.
I'd REALLY appreciate your help!


Thanks a Bunch,
-NeuroShock

I the model I was using is an HP cd-wqriter 8200 series.  If I remember right all I did was mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom.  I do not have access to cd drive right now, so I can not test it right now to make sure.  the only driver I remeber having to load was the usb-storage.  

I am not sure if that was before I started building my own kernel or not.  If it was after it could be that I added "CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_HP8200e=y" to the kernel config when I was adding all of the keyspan and the rtl8150 modules.  I am currently running Openzaurus 3.5.2 with GPE on my 6k which I have found is missing several of the kernel modules I have used like the rtl8150 and the keyspan modules.  

The main thing I remember when I made it work was that it spanned several errors in dmesg then the drive was connected without a cdrom inserted.  Though it was usually in that error that I would see the scd. Though  frm using usb cdroms on linux machines i know that they will sometimes come up as sr0 or sg0 or something strange like that, I usually figure out out from dmesg.

I will try to figure out what I did before and post it somewhere so other will be able to benifit from it.

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6000 - Tosa / Is The Sl-6000l Worth It?

« on: December 02, 2004, 11:33:21 am »

My 5600 had survived some really bad drops (I go through a PDA at least every 6 months) and it has lasted me damn near 2 years now... The stylus silo is cracked and it doesn't look that grand with scratches and stuff, but I'll be dammed if it never lost a thing for me, only shut down once.

I can only imagine the 6000 being even MORE durable... I just need to find out if I can plug my portable USB hard drive into it, and if anyone has tried a DVD rom.

I am a major cluts and have dropped my 6k a few hundred time in the 6 months I have owned it.  So far only the clear plastic cover for the screen shows any scratchs the rest of the Z looks pretty good for me takign it everywhere and dropping it all the time.

I have pluged serveral devices into my 6k...usually it is my realtek RTL8150 Fast Ethernet Adapter or my Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro keyboard, but I have used a usb CD-ROM and a USB hard drive on it.   Both the CD-ROM and the harddrive had exteranl power.  I did uses a powered usb hub on my 6k one day and was able to uses the cd-rom, harddrive, keyboard, mouse and network card at the same time.  The mouse did not do me much good since I was using the default sharp rom but I am hoping to try ti again now that I have GPE somewhat usable again.  I have not had access to a USB dvd  yet so I have not seen how that will work.

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6000 - Tosa / OpenZaurus, OZ on the 6000

« on: November 22, 2004, 01:54:21 pm »

There is some mistery with GPE. Once you flas it everything works BUT with no detection of pointer on touchscreen.
Nevertheless, if you go to the black console, presing FN+Del, at least four times, and launch Xfbdev from the console, the X's appear with nothing on it, but the pointer works. What is this stuff. If just it was possible to have a term in this screen, surely we could mount Debian or any other thing using this Xserver. Anyone has tryied it?
smuelas

The way I currently uses gpe is to login, bring up a  root console, run /etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop.  This puts me to a console.  Then I run "/etc/X11/Xserver & x-terminal".  From the xterm then run gpe-login.   This will give you a working gpe system with a few problems, like suspend does not always return.  Not the easist way to run your Z but it was a waay I could do testing...

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Security and Networking / Unable to connect to WAP with Zaurus SL-600L

« on: November 11, 2004, 06:02:14 pm »

so the AP definately saw the Zaurus,  but the Zaurus failed to connect.   where can I locate more info (logs ?) on why this is failing ?

dmesg is the best place to find what you are looking for.  You will see a section like this:

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ident: nic h/w: id=0x8026 1.0.0
ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.1.3
ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.8.3
MFI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x01:var=0x01:b/t=1/1
CFI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
PRI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x03:var=0x01:b/t=1/4
STA:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x04:var=0x01:b/t=1/15
PRI-CFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
STA-CFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
STA-MFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x01:var=0x01:b/t=1/1
Prism2 card SN: \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00
linkstatus=CONNECTED
The CONNECTED line is what tells you if it was about to get a connection the access point.  The cisco aironets my school uses do not connect unless I have AuthType=sharedkey.   It has been a while since I used the sharp rom so I can not rember where it is that you change the AuthType at other then in the /etc/wlan/wlancfg-SSID file.

Hope some of the helps.

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6000 - Tosa / Who has a 6000?

« on: November 10, 2004, 11:27:20 am »

A word of warning for those trying to set-up a Wi-Fi connection using 128bit WEP: In the "WEP" tab of the wizard (or "Edit", if you do it later), you have to click on "Details" and fill-in with your WEP key all four boxes, "Key1" through "Key4".

It may work, but it certainly isn't always necessary.  I only have Key1 filled in and it works fine both at work and at home.  Wonder what the difference is...

This ia an issue with wlan-ng from what I can tell...and it does not effect all WEP access points all the time..I have found this is a must is when using ADHOC with WEP and on a few of the Cisco Aironet...I also found that sharp does fill in all 4 lines in the wlancfg-SSID file even if you on put the key in once(at least on mine it does)...since I found sharp doing this on my zaurus I have started doing this on my desknote that used a d-link 122 and found my connections worked alot better...I still have not found any documentation to explan why this is yet, this just experience from making the wlan-ng work on openzaurus...

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6000 - Tosa / Headphones

« on: November 08, 2004, 05:08:11 pm »

Since I have already lost two adapters I am looking at getting headphones that already have the 2.5mm adapter.  These are some of the ones I am looking at:

JAVOeBuds - 2.5mm Retractable Stereo Earphones (black)
Seidio Treo 2-in-1 Over-the-Ear Headset
Seidio Treo 2-in-1 Backphone

I have not got any of these yet but plan to get something around christmas time.  If anyone has tried any of these or something like it let me know.

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6000 - Tosa / How To Restore 6000 To Original State?

« on: November 08, 2004, 02:55:06 pm »

Does this process works only with CF and not SD?
 

that is correct...I have thought about looking at thier updater.pro file so I can see what they are doing to add it into the updater.sh so you can do the NAND flash from sd instead of cf but I finally bought a cf card and have been using it...before that I used a friends cf card...

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6000 - Tosa / How To Restore 6000 To Original State?

« on: November 08, 2004, 11:26:52 am »

Can someone please share the original NAND backup of the Zaurus SL-6000L?

http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org/download/za...0217SL6V112.zip is the original sharp rom as found on sharps site.  I have used it many time and then restored my backup and had my Z right back to the point it was before I started playing.  The instruction from sharps website on how to uses this restore are  at http://zaurus.thegrantclan.org/download/za...ashsharprom.txt.

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6000 - Tosa / OpenZaurus, OZ on the 6000

« on: November 01, 2004, 10:58:55 am »

Hello nevarrie,
I have just tested your cramfs dated yesterday October 29 I just want to let you know that I found the installation menu brought up correctly, I used it to install OPIE and everything went fine.

This is good to hear.

I noticed that suspending pressing the On/Off button begins a suspend/resume loop. I needed to reset to stop it. But suspending from the Opie menu is just fine.

I have got the suspend problem myself...this maybe something with my build, since i have talked with some of the others that have build images for the 6000 and they have not had problems with suspend...

Now if only we get backlight tuning and WiFi running... we could say goodbye to that standard Sharp ROM.
Great work!

With the price fo the 6000 down as low as it is now more developers have 6000's now so hopefullly we can get these last few problems fixed for OPIE and have a nice alternive to the sharp rom.

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6000 - Tosa / Keyboards?

« on: November 01, 2004, 10:48:23 am »

Hi,

Just receive my 6000L, but some problems come in then. I've installed the keyboard driver from http://ifound.com/anon/

I follow these steps:

• Turn off beam receive (ie. set to manual).
• Select IRK as the input method
• Configure IRK via it's settings panel
• Turn on IRK from it's control panel

At this point, I get an error message, "Couldn't open IrDA serial Port. Either something else is using the...."

I choose SL5000/SL5500 and SL5600/SLC7xx, and I also try v0.10 and 0.11, but both of don't work. Do I miss some steps?

I uses a Targus IR keyboard with my SL-6000L when ever I am using the default sharp rom(Have nto got IRK to work with OpenZaurus OPIE yet) so I can tell you that I know it will work...

Have you used the keyboard with any other devices, such as a palm device?  I remember having a problem with getting one of the Targus keyboards with working with either mine or my friends Zaurus and it ending up being the keyboard was not powered on.  If I remember right we just had to move the batteries around to get it working.