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« Reply #270 on: May 12, 2007, 02:01:23 am »
pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
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« Reply #271 on: May 12, 2007, 10:08:53 am »
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I tried this new method of upgrading pdaxii13-akita with pdaXii13-custom.tgz, but when I'm in the installer menu and I hit "6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom", then select <OK>, then hit my enter key, all that happens is it returns me to the same menu. It acts like it is doing something for about 1½ seconds, then returns to the same menu.
I got my files from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
I placed these 3 files on my CF card
tools.tar
updater.sh (new one, 0.3)
pdaXii13-custom.tgz
« Last Edit: May 12, 2007, 10:10:02 am by Jon_J »
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« Reply #272 on: May 12, 2007, 10:20:05 am »
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
[div align=\"right\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
I tried this new method of upgrading pdaxii13-akita with pdaXii13-custom.tgz, but when I'm in the installer menu and I hit "6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom", then select <OK>, then hit my enter key, all that happens is it returns me to the same menu. It acts like it is doing something for about 1½ seconds, then returns to the same menu.
I got my files from here:
[a href=\"http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/]http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/feed/pdaXii13/akita/[/url]
I placed these 3 files on my CF card
tools.tar
updater.sh (new one, 0.3)
pdaXii13-custom.tgz
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=161157\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

oops, mispelled pdaXii13-custom.tgz in the updater.sh. try it again with the updated one...
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« Reply #273 on: May 12, 2007, 10:26:53 am »
it isn't available now.
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
is missing.
number 6. is "Reboot"
I double checked, that's what took me so long
« Last Edit: May 12, 2007, 10:31:18 am by Jon_J »
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« Reply #274 on: May 12, 2007, 10:46:40 am »
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it isn't available now.
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
is missing.
number 6. is "Reboot"
I double checked, that's what took me so long
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=161159\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]

are you absolutely sure you didn't take the 0.2 version by mistake?
6. is reboot in 0.2
in 0.3 6. is Upgrade
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« Reply #275 on: May 12, 2007, 10:51:36 am »
I'll download it again.
You're right, I downloaded 0.2 the second time.
I just downloaded 0.3 again.
I'll try again and I'll edit this post with results.

EDIT:
6. Upgrade with pdaxii13-custom
now extracting...
...updating
Reboot.
I'll check version as soon as GUI is launched.

EDIT2:
version
pdaxii13 build5.4.3 "Sally"

 
I like the new pdaxii13 config tool
« Last Edit: May 12, 2007, 11:02:21 am by Jon_J »
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« Reply #276 on: May 12, 2007, 12:42:32 pm »
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pdaXii13 Akita 5.4.3 is available.

You have two options to upgrade.

1. just flash latest initrd.bin like always

2. use new updater.sh to upgrade using pdaXii13-custom.tgz (note that you need to install icewm before the upgrade if you want icewm customised by the update)
   ipkg install icewm, then flash Z like usually but with new updater.sh and also pdaXii13-custom.tgz and select Upgrade (most your settings will be preserved and all your custom apps will still be there)
[div align=\"right\"][a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=161126\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a][/div]
Do people that are running 5.4 or newer need to reinstall icewm before running the upgrade or is that instruction only for the people running 5.3.6 or older?  Thank you for all your hard work on this.
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« Reply #277 on: May 18, 2007, 01:11:19 pm »
Nevermind...  I must have done something wrong.  I tried installing the rom again and now I have a little space in root.  I still only have 7k,  is that enough?  After installing firefox to SD with "ipkg -d sd install firefox" I have almost none of that space left...

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Is / supposed to be 0kb right off a fresh install?  After installing several packages to an SD card, ipkg starts spitting errors about not being able to create sym links because there isn't enough memory.
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« Reply #278 on: May 19, 2007, 01:48:33 am »
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Nevermind...  I must have done something wrong.  I tried installing the rom again and now I have a little space in root.  I still only have 7k,  is that enough?  After installing firefox to SD with "ipkg -d sd install firefox" I have almost none of that space left...

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Is / supposed to be 0kb right off a fresh install?  After installing several packages to an SD card, ipkg starts spitting errors about not being able to create sym links because there isn't enough memory.
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did you resize your root to 121?
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« Reply #279 on: May 19, 2007, 09:32:54 am »
I left root alone.  I don't remember reading any directions that I should change it.

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« Reply #280 on: May 20, 2007, 11:37:41 pm »
- One: STELLAR WORK Meanie.  I've played with your XQt package with Cacko and was impressed, so when I saw you'd tweaked pdaXrom for Akita I had to give it a go (5.4.4 "Sally", by version).  Certainly the most functional distro of this I've ever run.  Only been this weekend, but it hasn't crashed once, it turns on and off reliably, and KDEPIM works like a charm so I have all my data and passwords.  GOOD FORM!

<edit>Can't say it hasn't crashed.  (sniffle)  It kept the time, today (may 21) but set the date back to May 14.  When I used the Date/Time dialog to fix it, and saved, the screen went dark, and I had to power cycle.  On resume it had totally hosed things.  All window decoration is gone (border, titles, etc), the task/applet bar is gone, and none of the keys (like the "super" key) work any longer.  If it weren't for that annoying bunch of icons on the screen I couldn't do anything at all.  (bemused grin)  Dunno what to do at this point, but I think it's going to be simpler to reflash than spend all the time researching what flat file to edit to fix it.  It also appears to have corrupted the xfce installation because that won't load.  Multiple reboots/resets have had no effect.  Bogus.  This time thing is going to be a deal killer in the end.</edit>

- Two: It does lose time.  I *think* when I use the menu to suspend it, it freezes the clock, because it doesn't lose only six hours.  Today it was off by nearly 12.  When I use the button it doesn't *seem* to do this, but it is a bit vexing to have the clock be inaccurate.  Any hints on what I can run/do/edit to troubleshoot this?

- Three: It turns on *very* slowly.  I personally don't care, but it does do that.

- Four: There's this bar at the bottom, see, but running apps never appear there.  Is that normal?  If it is, it is, but if it isn't, I'd like to troubleshoot that as well.

- Five: This appears to have QT installed as well as X, but when I install a QT app it won't work.  I copied all QT libs to /usr/lib/qt/lib and all QT bins to /usr/lib/qt/bin, then symlinked those dirs from /opt/QtPalmtop but it still can't find libs on launch.  I don' t have any QT apps currently installed (nuked kernel-modules by accident and had to reflash), but any pointers in that direction would be nice.  None of the X versions of Sokoban work right.  (little boy pout)

- Six: There's this funny bar at the top of the desktop with all of the normal menu selections under it, as icons.  I would like to completely dispense with that entire bar and icon system.  There are also a number of customizations I'd like to do to the UI, and I'm pretty sure they're doable, but I'm a Rank N00b at X on the Z and have less than no clue where to even start.  I've done some poking around here on OESF, but search has never been a strong point of the OESF forum software, that I've noticed, so I've had limited success.  If anyone has any hints in that direction I'd appreciate it.  For instance, this seems to have "rox" installed, but I can't get it to show me files other than that desktop-level icon thing.  Grrrr, I say.

- Seven: I'm thinking of ditching all managers except icewm or fluxbox.  I don't know how that could be a problem but it never hurts to solicit input.  (grin)

- Eight: I read somewhere that this won't turn until the lid is closed for a while, then it works.  Mine does this.  Minor to say the least, but I thought I'd toss it out there.

- Nine: Every applications launches very slowly.  Again this doesn't bother me, because it's a full-blown Linux distro, in essence, complete with X.  Others may find this more annoying, but nothing I've seen makes any difference in load times, even unloading scim (though that did boost memory quite a bit - sweet)

- Ten: jamvm is equivalent to 1.4.x.  Very nice!  No more brain-dead evm!!  I've even scripted it to launch as "java".  (grin)

- Eleven: One of the backlight brightness settings is "off".  Cute!

- Twelve: Virtual desktops *are* there.  There doesn't seem to be any default to show them, but the "super" key (now that I've read this thread and know what it is) goes back and forth just fine as you please.  Wowzers!!  That'll be a good clutter reducer on this tiny display.

- More later ... these are just my initial observations.  I'm thinking this is the first non-Sharp ROM that's been stable enough to keep around.  My little mind is officially boggled...
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« Reply #281 on: May 21, 2007, 03:42:41 pm »
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It does lose time. I *think* when I use the menu to suspend it, it freezes the clock, because it doesn't lose only six hours. Today it was off by nearly 12. When I use the button it doesn't *seem* to do this, but it is a bit vexing to have the clock be inaccurate. Any hints on what I can run/do/edit to troubleshoot this?
Well, I don't know if this will work, but for me (running beta3, not pdaXii13) suspending by using the Power button and resuming using the Home button works every time and I never lose time. You should suspend by holding the On/Off button for about 0.75 seconds and resume by pressing and releasing the Home key. If suspending using the menu doesn't work, what's the big deal? To me it's easier to suspend by holding a button than pressing many to access the menu and the the Suspend item.

Also, you should try setting the time manually using the 'date' command and then typing "/sbin/hwclock --systohc". I don't know if Meanie wrote a script that does that in his Config app, but this makes sure the time is maintained after a reboot.

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It turns on *very* slowly. I personally don't care, but it does do that.
How slowly is *very* slowly? It takes a little bit of time for me, but never more than 10-15 seconds even with Firefox open (again running beta3 and not pdaXii13, so I don't have SCIM etc. installed, but it still shouldn't take TOO long).

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There's this bar at the bottom, see, but running apps never appear there. Is that normal? If it is, it is, but if it isn't, I'd like to troubleshoot that as well.
This is normal for Matchbox as far as I know. There may be an applet to add in that functionality, but I don't know (I use XFCE and therefore don't have that problem).

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I'm thinking of ditching all managers except icewm or fluxbox. I don't know how that could be a problem but it never hurts to solicit input. (grin)
Removing Matchbox is a BAD idea. It can be done, but is not recommended. Matchbox is the main window manager integrated with pdaXrom, and although you can use other window managers (I do) none of them have ALL of the functionality that Matchbox does (because it is used as the default pdaXrom window manager). Therefore, if ever there's a problem with your accessory window manager, you can always fall back on Matchbox.

So, it can be done, but I would recommend against it.

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Every applications launches very slowly. Again this doesn't bother me, because it's a full-blown Linux distro, in essence, complete with X. Others may find this more annoying, but nothing I've seen makes any difference in load times, even unloading scim (though that did boost memory quite a bit - sweet)
EVERY app launches slowly? Really? I mean, for me Firefox launches quite slowly (it's a heavy-duty app), but Leafpad, for example, opens in less than 4 seconds. My terminal app (GTKTerm2) also opens in under 4 seconds. RXVT opens even faster. I never even used the Sharp ROM, so I don't know how fast that is, but I think most lightweight apps open in a very reasonable time for me (again, beta3 so no SCIM etc., but all those can be removed from pdaXii13 if you so wish to create a beta3-like setup with some extra customizations).

I hope you get everything sorted out, because pdaXrom really is a great ROM (distribution), and Meanie and others have worked very hard to get it to a useable state.
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« Reply #282 on: May 21, 2007, 08:13:31 pm »
- I agree, T3_slider, that pdaXrom is simply amazing.  Always have thought that, but every other time I've loaded it there have been fairly significant, imho, problems remaining.  Now I don't see anything significant except this time thing, and I'm willing to play with that one.

- About the slow loads, I point that out for others because I've seen it mentioned many times in this thread.  I know it's doing a lot, so I don't really care.  A terminal does open quickly.  KOPI takes ten or fifteen seconds.  Firefox takes something like 30, but it sho is sweet when it gets there!  I'm guessing the speed difference we see is you have a 3200 and swap space, where I have a 1000 and no swap at present.  (shrug)  Dunno, and don't care.  If I can figure out this time thing I'm sticking with this puppy.  It's too cool not to!  (geeky smile)

- I haven't tried a command-line date yet.  Thought of it, but haven't tried it.  I know Meanie does have that hardware sync command in there 'cause I've seen it.  I've wondered if doing that every time X starts might be part of the issue?  (shrug)  Dunno.  I'm going to fix this window manager thing first.  Dang that "pinboard" is about annoying.  But this is Linux.  I *have* alternatives!  (happy smile)

- I prefer the power button myself.  I'll just remove the menu suspend. (shrug)  Same with reboot, which never does.  I do a shutdown instead.  No biggie.  This is Linux ... there are always multiple routes to any destination.

- Thanks for the matchbox tip.  I'm going with xfce myself, once I get there.  I had to reflash to fix the window dressing issue, so I'm back to the basics.  I figure that's a really good time to mess with X, in case I have to reflash again.  (giggle)

- Sorry I didn't quote.  In a hurry.  Telescope's out equalizing temperature and I gotta get out amongst the stars.  Thanks!...
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« Reply #283 on: May 22, 2007, 12:36:06 am »
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I'm guessing the speed difference we see is you have a 3200 and swap space, where I have a 1000 and no swap at present.
Good point. I do have 256 Mb of swap. I don't know how much that contributes to speed (I always thought swap just allowed more things to run and avoid out of memory errors), but it may have an effect.
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« Reply #284 on: May 24, 2007, 05:27:16 am »
Menu for choosing window manager is not working corectly. The only manager that works is openbox. After choosing IceWM i see a line: window manager changed to IceWM and it's still loading openbox. I installed the latest version with IceWm as "default".