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« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2005, 09:21:16 am »
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RFE: add an option in the finder to look from the root, in addition to the /home/zaurus/Documents, /mnt/card/ and /mnt/cf:)
This is a binay only application from C3000, I have no source code for it.

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« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2005, 09:38:00 am »
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Delete /usr/lib/ipkg folder and also similar folders from CF and SD cards. That should help with those error messages and GUI Package Manager will be able to install packages.
Thanks, that did it.

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« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2005, 10:01:47 am »
Great work on this.  Spotted most of the bugs mentioned above; battery charging light not switching off, ncurses and screen blanking straight away.  The battery charging may be related to me using the small battery in my c860 instead of the big battery.

Now for my own little bug.  I no longer get icons appearing in the file tab for my sd or cf cards.  The card applet on the task bar 'sees' them when they are inserted and they are mounted correctly of you go to /mnt/cf or /mnt/card.  They even appear on  my Windows machine via samba.  This is very minor as I have work around it by adding sym links to the cards in the internal flash.

Thanks again for the good work.
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« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2005, 10:09:13 am »
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Well I wish I had a QA department   With current set of resources we'd never had a release if we kept on testing and even then we wouldn't find all the problems... Alas, but we're doing the work that Sharp (a huge corporation) should have done.

Regarding WMV and WMA - it's not very well supported by mplayer, so don't bother trying to play them...

If you don;t like the screensaver applet, just disable it and foget it, everything works even without the screensaver
I just proposed to be the damn department. Let me know if you want help. I just love nitpicking (I do UI design as a side job with a friend, and he's slowly come to hating me on the job).
I thought WMA and WMV were supported because of the feature list on the Kino page.
DivX and XviD still won't play for me though  As I said, I can mail you a couple of testing video's. I thought you used ffmpeg as your decoding lib? That should handle WMV/Xvid/etc just fine, last time I checked.
For some reason, mplayer drops quite a few more frames in Rotated Mode (the one mode you're likely to use on a C860 given its landscape orientation). In portrait, it's buttter smooth though  Maybe the mplayer rotate algo is sucky, but you can't be blamed for that now can you  
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or perhaps make it automatic - so when you choose to make a connection via PPP to a mobile then it turns it's self on.
That's possible with the up/down scripts for the PPP link. It's much more non-trivial to do it depending on actual traffic.
About the applet: my problems are much more about the lack of integration than with with applet itself. It'd be nice not to have the "about" box in the context menu, to be able to dynamically enable/disable the SS from there, things like that. But you have to be realistic: you're fixing something that someone else screwed up, and you're doing as best a job you can. The lack of proper integration stems from your "Let's fix this crap" attitude, which is very much in line with what most users want. It's just penalizing when you want to rework something, and you end up with something that's quite complex.

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« Reply #79 on: January 04, 2005, 11:43:59 am »
Absolutly fantastic ROM - Thanks very much for the great ROM - It's leagues ahead of the old one.

The Support for the Socket rev G bluetooth card is great - my only question now would be: is the bluetooth card draining the battery the whole time it's in place? - is it possible to have a software 'switch' to turn Bluetooth on and off? - or perhaps make it automatic - so when you choose to make a connection via PPP to a mobile then it turns it's self on.

Guy

PS Thanks again for all your hard work.
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« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2005, 01:15:35 pm »
Everything look great (except the small bugs and annoyances other people have already mentioned). I just have two questions about Kino2 0.4:

1) Wasn't it supposed to be a lot faster? It may be like ev1l said and the mplayer rotation code sucks, but I can't get even a 512x384 (or something) video to play with anything higher than 0.5-1 fps. And that file can't be played without rotating it since it is wider than 480 pixels.
2) My old 320x240-transcoded files play smooth, but oh-so-very tiny. What happened to the Quarter-Image-zoom-thingie that we all knew and loved?  

Also, I tried running Quake, and it shows the init screen with the QT toolbar flickering along the left side of the screen, and doesn't do anything more (waited 5+ minutes).

Of course, ScummVM runs just great, which is the most important thing.  
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« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2005, 01:15:38 pm »
Thanks for this new rom, which is a dream come true: it's fast, it's functional, everything that I can run on it, I can run after a few clicks - the package feed system is excellent.  My Origo NL-2511CF wireless card worked straight away, and I can run X with the x-qtserver - too cool!!   (I'm currently displaying the 'deco' X screensaver on it, wirelessly, from another host).

One oddity: I was running 1.21b before, did a ROM/RAM backup from the diag menus and tried to restore it later, using the diag menus again: my SL-C860 flagged a rather ominous-looking red error.  I take it that due to the flash needing to be resized, the standard diag menu rom backup doesn't work properly?  Actually I should not have been messing with this since it is way beyond my knowledge, but that's how I've always done backups before - perhaps the only backups I should do are via the backup/restore utility?

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« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2005, 02:23:52 pm »
Kedge,

Just as an FYI, which is unrelated to the problem you are having.  You may run into problems installing packages that you download from feed if you do not have the necessary dependencies.  When you install from the feed the package manager will automatically install any additional needed packages.  So, keep that in mind.

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« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2005, 04:39:11 pm »
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I just proposed to be the damn department. Let me know if you want help. I just love nitpicking (I do UI design as a side job with a friend, and he's slowly come to hating me on the job).

I'm tracking down all issues that you guys report here. Right now that's the only way to report bugs. We might setup a bug tracking on our web page later.

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I thought WMA and WMV were supported because of the feature list on the Kino page.

Remember that kino2 is just a frontend to the mplayer, so it supports whatever mplayer can play, nothing more...

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DivX and XviD still won't play for me though  As I said, I can mail you a couple of testing video's. I thought you used ffmpeg as your decoding lib? That should handle WMV/Xvid/etc just fine, last time I checked.

Can you upload those files  somethere so that I can download them?

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For some reason, mplayer drops quite a few more frames in Rotated Mode (the one mode you're likely to use on a C860 given its landscape orientation). In portrait, it's buttter smooth though  Maybe the mplayer rotate algo is sucky, but you can't be blamed for that now can you 

Yes, rotation takes about 20-30% of performance, so it's better to encode videos already in landscape mode.

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About the applet: my problems are much more about the lack of integration than with with applet itself. It'd be nice not to have the "about" box in the context menu, to be able to dynamically enable/disable the SS from there, things like that. But you have to be realistic: you're fixing something that someone else screwed up, and you're doing as best a job you can. The lack of proper integration stems from your "Let's fix this crap" attitude, which is very much in line with what most users want. It's just penalizing when you want to rework something, and you end up with something that's quite complex.

I keep telling you guys that most of the issues cannot be fixed because there is no source code for Sharp's version of Qtoipa. Regarding the Screen Saver - although it's GPLed, it had such a low priority, so I decided to just ship it as is (we only did Japanese to English translation).

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« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2005, 04:48:57 pm »
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Absolutly fantastic ROM - Thanks very much for the great ROM - It's leagues ahead of the old one.

The Support for the Socket rev G bluetooth card is great - my only question now would be: is the bluetooth card draining the battery the whole time it's in place? - is it possible to have a software 'switch' to turn Bluetooth on and off? - or perhaps make it automatic - so when you choose to make a connection via PPP to a mobile then it turns it's self on.

Guy

PS Thanks again for all your hard work.
All inserted CF cards drain some battery. If you want, you can eject the card manualy using the applet, in this case the card will be suspended and will drain less power.

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« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2005, 04:52:40 pm »
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1) Wasn't it supposed to be a lot faster? It may be like ev1l said and the mplayer rotation code sucks, but I can't get even a 512x384 (or something) video to play with anything higher than 0.5-1 fps. And that file can't be played without rotating it since it is wider than 480 pixels.

Make sure the following options are set for this video:

 - Rotate Video  - ON
 - Smart Crop  - ON
 - Scale  - ON
 - Resample audio  - ON

Also, what is the bit rate of your video? More that 500Kb/s will be dropping frames.

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2) My old 320x240-transcoded files play smooth, but oh-so-very tiny. What happened to the Quarter-Image-zoom-thingie that we all knew and loved? 

 - Rotate Video - ON
 - Smart Crop - OFF
 - Scale - ON

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« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2005, 05:00:48 pm »
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One oddity: I was running 1.21b before, did a ROM/RAM backup from the diag menus and tried to restore it later, using the diag menus again: my SL-C860 flagged a rather ominous-looking red error. I take it that due to the flash needing to be resized, the standard diag menu rom backup doesn't work properly? Actually I should not have been messing with this since it is way beyond my knowledge, but that's how I've always done backups before - perhaps the only backups I should do are via the backup/restore utility?

Please, read my previous posts carefully - no backup/restore between different ROM versions. Period.  At least, I'm not going to support such schenario because there are too many differences between the ROMs.

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« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2005, 06:24:59 pm »
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1) Wasn't it supposed to be a lot faster? It may be like ev1l said and the mplayer rotation code sucks, but I can't get even a 512x384 (or something) video to play with anything higher than 0.5-1 fps. And that file can't be played without rotating it since it is wider than 480 pixels.

Make sure the following options are set for this video:

 - Rotate Video  - ON
 - Smart Crop  - ON
 - Scale  - ON
 - Resample audio  - ON

Also, what is the bit rate of your video? More that 500Kb/s will be dropping frames.
All of the above are set. I'm playing a 640x368 500kbps video with Vorbis sound (that doesn't play since I tried to run Quake or ScummVM, but a reboot will fix that).

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2) My old 320x240-transcoded files play smooth, but oh-so-very tiny. What happened to the Quarter-Image-zoom-thingie that we all knew and loved? 

 - Rotate Video - ON
 - Smart Crop - OFF
 - Scale - ON
Doesn't work. Maybe it's something with my video file - when I play it without scaling there's a big green rectangle to the right of it, and if I don't rotate I get part of the video duplicated in that same rectangle.
The same video played fine (albeit slower) on the 1.21 ROM version of Kino2.
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« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2005, 06:26:14 pm »
hey guys give him (maslovsky) a break with the kino2/mplayer issues. mplayer was ported by by this guy here (sorry dont know his name  )

http://atty.jp/?Zaurus/mplayer-w100

and he has done a great job with mplayer. and the cacko guys have done a great job with kino2 ( i am impressed with the frontend) having used mplayer without it.

i suggest one should try the wmvs with a desktop linux version of mplayer to see if the original mplayer (www.mplayer.hu) supports it well. I have found that wmv9 and wma9 are not supported while wmv8 works ok.

an unwritten policy of oss is to release early and release often and i think its a good idea too. that way we can test and iron out the bugs soon.

if you guys(cacko) need any help from me with some coding/porting just ask me. I was about to release my heretic/duke3d ports but saw u guys already have it in your feed. just give me suggestions on sdl based games that could be ported.

thanks for 1.22

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« Reply #89 on: January 04, 2005, 06:43:57 pm »
Spoke to soon... the reboot that fixed the sound also made 320x240 playing work just as good as before, faster even.
Will now try a 640x368 file encoded to avoid rotating it and see what happens.

Edit: The pre-rotated file played beautifully! Full C860 resolution, only issue is that audio plays ahead of video sometimes (until the video catches up). But 500kbps in 640x480 looks better than 500kbps in 320x240 IMHO.  
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