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> New Nokia N810 Tablet Coming Soon, any day now, news leaking
N810, possible zaurus killer
will you buy one?
I'll stick with my Zaurus you insensitive clod! [ 7 ] ** [17.07%]
I'd rather have a full-blown UMPC/MID [ 4 ] ** [9.76%]
I'll wait for the wimax version. [ 2 ] ** [4.88%]
I already have an N770/N800 and can't/won't upgrade! [ 4 ] ** [9.76%]
Huh? What's a nokia internet tablet? [ 1 ] ** [2.44%]
I will buy one in addition to my zaurus(es) [ 7 ] ** [17.07%]
I will buy one to replace my zaurus(es) [ 5 ] ** [12.20%]
I'll sit on the fence until reviews are out [ 11 ] ** [26.83%]
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ZDevil
post Oct 17 2007, 09:07 AM
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Just to be picky on the keyboard layout:
-- Just one [Shift] key
-- Numbers are accessed thru the Fn key, which means no [F1]-[F10] laugh.gif
-- No [Alt] key
-- No application keys (like those in the bottom row on the Z)

Engadget says it is a "full QWERTY" keyboard, but still not "full" enough imho.
Of course the criticism is based on my assumption that it will/should run a more powerful system (like angstrom, pdaX or debian like what's happening to N800).

But in terms of hardware features it's better than the Z in almost every respect.

It's not easy for me to vote... because I may buy one if it can really run some more full-fledged linux and run as many things as my Z is running now. Well i know it is such a bad option to add to the poll, so just ignore me... tongue.gif
(debian would be the best choice, like in N800, and the 2GB internal memory should take the whole thing without trouble) Am I a glutton?
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Capn_Fish
post Oct 17 2007, 11:02 AM
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D-Pads are on the left in many things, like game consoles, so it should feel natural. The Zaurus is odd in that respect, being more like a PC.
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RX Shorty
post Oct 17 2007, 11:02 AM
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Well like the idea of it...
But I typed on such keyboard before (communicator of Nokia) and I must say I don't like it because of the buttons that are used.
And it looks like they use the same for this device.
Then again it is a good looking toy...
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harvell
post Oct 17 2007, 11:04 AM
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Built in GPS, Mozilla browser with ajax and flash 9.... Can I change my vote to "I will buy one in addition"?? BTW the d pad on the left side will make game play better for emulators. biggrin.gif

http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=649
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post Oct 17 2007, 12:34 PM
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well, I kind of like it, I'm still sitting on the fence, I like it more than the N800 because it has a basic (too basic) hardware keyboard. The Zaurus 6000 keyboard makes me think this would have similar problems - not enough keys means having to use it two handed because you end up pressing FN or ALT to get to numbers and punctuation - at least with the 7xx/8xx/1000/3x00 zauruses you can become quite quick and mostly use one hand.

for entering simple text (think short emails and web site URLs) the keyboard would be great, and infinitely superior to a cellphone's numeric pad which is such a pain.

I'd like to know whether they fixed the problem with the memory bandwidth to the video display which made full motion video problematic. the addition of GPS is a major plus.

I think that linux fans who don't already have a PDA/tablet/MID/UMPC will be swayed by this.

I'm going to sit on the fence a while longer :-)
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post Oct 17 2007, 06:12 PM
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Very interesting - a lot to like here.
But there is one fatal flow - no built in wireless broadband (at this point in time
these types of devices without it no longer make any sense to me).
I can't figure out how nokia does not realize this - devices of this type are most
naturally used outside of home (away from wifi since most people at home will
probably still used laptops or something else with larger screens).
This is so light and easy to carry and finally with a keyboar - it's crying for internet
anywhere option but it's not there!
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post Oct 17 2007, 07:34 PM
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http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/se...n810_en_R1.html

Priced at US$ 479. It is definitely on my Christmas list.
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post Oct 17 2007, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(freizugheit @ Oct 17 2007, 07:34 PM) *
http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/se...n810_en_R1.html

Priced at US$ 479. It is definitely on my Christmas list.

Very nice.
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post Oct 18 2007, 12:30 AM
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Oops, this Review shows that it has a slide keyboard like my SL-5600.
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post Oct 18 2007, 04:10 AM
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Engadget has a hands-on article, along with some pictures. Check it out.

And some details:
  • Same 4.13-nch WVGA (800 x 480), 65k color display as the N800, brightness increased by ~20%
  • GPS with particular focus on the "context sensitive web" via Ovi
  • 2GB internal storage (not including memory cards), ships with maps for use with GPS
  • Has WiFi (802.11b/g), does not have WiMAX
  • Bluetooth (2.0+ EDR) DUNs to capable phones, totally Foleo-like
  • 400MHz OMAP 2420 CPU, 128MB RAM, 256MB ROM
  • Integrated frontal camera, ambient light sensor, mini USB 2.0, hardware lock switch
  • Plays back video: 3GP, AVI, H.263, H.264, MP4, ASF, WMV, MPEG-1/4, Real video; audio: MP3, WMA, AAC, AMR, AWB, M4A, MP2, Real audio, WAV
  • Battery life aimed at 4 hours of "typical use" (movies, music, internet access, etc.), 10 hours music only, and up to 2 weeks totally idle time, and 5 days active standby ("improved compared to previous generation devices")
  • Runs Nokia's Linux Maemo interface (duh)
  • 5 x 2.83 x 0.55-inches, 7.97 ounces
  • Ships in November, $479

I'm really liking this device. It's very powerful (128MB of RAM is a *major* boon, and the OMAP CPU is pretty powerful), has dual wireless, dual SD slots, 2GB internal Storage (and 256MB ROM), GPS, and is quite cheap. All that, but most of all, the fact that it's based on an open platform, which Nokia hasn't tried to close even in the leastest bit (as many other companies do with their Linux-running devices). If custom distros start popping up, then I'm sold.

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RX Shorty
post Oct 18 2007, 04:27 AM
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Just as I thought, the keyboard isn't that handy.
Hmm then again it looks sweet but I also have to agree on these comments about the only 4 hours duration when using internet connection.

The Zaurus can only do 2 hours but that devices a bit older as this one.
They really should try to improve that.
Ah well... smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(B_Lizzard @ Oct 18 2007, 12:10 PM) *
dual SD slots,


Minor correction: It only has one SD slot and a mini-SD one at that. Mini-SD is a pain if you already have a supply of SD or SDHC cards. Total possible storage on the N810 (2GB + 1 mini-SD slot probably mini-SDHC) will be less than the prior N800 (2 SDHC slots).

From what I have read, the 810 is only a minor upgrade from the 800. The key differences are sliding keyboard and gps/maps. And the price differences is nearly double: supposedly USD479 versus current low prices for the 800 of less than USD250.

The other hardware and processor is the same -- although clocked higher for the N810. The older N800 will be able to take a free software upgrade which should allow it to have the same software features as the new N810.

Supposedly sometime next year Nokia will have a version with wimax or something like that.

Oh, one more thing ... am I the only one who doesn't want, doesn't need, and can't have a camera in a device I expect to take everywhere?

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post Oct 18 2007, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(mars @ Oct 18 2007, 10:50 AM) *
QUOTE(B_Lizzard @ Oct 18 2007, 12:10 PM) *
dual SD slots,


Oh, one more thing ... am I the only one who doesn't want, doesn't need, and can't have a camera in a device I expect to take everywhere?


I don't want the camera either. But I do insist on wireless broadband and am not interested in bloototh or usb
connections to cell phones (so this device still does not cut it for me).
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post Oct 18 2007, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(mars @ Oct 18 2007, 06:50 AM) *
The other hardware and processor is the same -- although clocked higher for the N810. The older N800 will be able to take a free software upgrade which should allow it to have the same software features as the new N810.

And the same clock speed, too.
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post Oct 18 2007, 02:42 PM
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scoring against the N800:
+5 adding GPS
+2 adding a basic keyboard
-3 removing the buttons so you have to open the slider
-10 making it single slot miniSD and not dual slot SD/SDHC
-2 making the web cam fixed
+2 making it slightly smaller
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