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Oct 17 2007, 09:07 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,003 Joined: 16-April 04 From: the Netherlands && /dev/null Member No.: 2,882 |
Just to be picky on the keyboard layout:
-- Just one [Shift] key -- Numbers are accessed thru the Fn key, which means no [F1]-[F10] -- No [Alt] key -- No application keys (like those in the bottom row on the Z) Engadget says it is a "full QWERTY" keyboard, but still not "full" enough imho. Of course the criticism is based on my assumption that it will/should run a more powerful system (like angstrom, pdaX or debian like what's happening to N800). But in terms of hardware features it's better than the Z in almost every respect. It's not easy for me to vote... because I may buy one if it can really run some more full-fledged linux and run as many things as my Z is running now. Well i know it is such a bad option to add to the poll, so just ignore me... (debian would be the best choice, like in N800, and the 2GB internal memory should take the whole thing without trouble) Am I a glutton? |
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Oct 17 2007, 11:02 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,350 Joined: 30-July 06 Member No.: 10,575 |
D-Pads are on the left in many things, like game consoles, so it should feel natural. The Zaurus is odd in that respect, being more like a PC.
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Oct 17 2007, 11:02 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 12-October 07 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 20,813 |
Well like the idea of it...
But I typed on such keyboard before (communicator of Nokia) and I must say I don't like it because of the buttons that are used. And it looks like they use the same for this device. Then again it is a good looking toy... |
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Oct 17 2007, 11:04 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 242 Joined: 11-May 06 From: Silicon Valley, CA Member No.: 9,831 |
Built in GPS, Mozilla browser with ajax and flash 9.... Can I change my vote to "I will buy one in addition"?? BTW the d pad on the left side will make game play better for emulators.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=649 |
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Oct 17 2007, 12:34 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,277 Joined: 29-July 04 From: Cambridge, England Member No.: 4,149 |
well, I kind of like it, I'm still sitting on the fence, I like it more than the N800 because it has a basic (too basic) hardware keyboard. The Zaurus 6000 keyboard makes me think this would have similar problems - not enough keys means having to use it two handed because you end up pressing FN or ALT to get to numbers and punctuation - at least with the 7xx/8xx/1000/3x00 zauruses you can become quite quick and mostly use one hand.
for entering simple text (think short emails and web site URLs) the keyboard would be great, and infinitely superior to a cellphone's numeric pad which is such a pain. I'd like to know whether they fixed the problem with the memory bandwidth to the video display which made full motion video problematic. the addition of GPS is a major plus. I think that linux fans who don't already have a PDA/tablet/MID/UMPC will be swayed by this. I'm going to sit on the fence a while longer :-) |
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Oct 17 2007, 06:12 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 9-March 04 Member No.: 2,230 |
Very interesting - a lot to like here. But there is one fatal flow - no built in wireless broadband (at this point in time these types of devices without it no longer make any sense to me). I can't figure out how nokia does not realize this - devices of this type are most naturally used outside of home (away from wifi since most people at home will probably still used laptops or something else with larger screens). This is so light and easy to carry and finally with a keyboar - it's crying for internet anywhere option but it's not there! |
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Oct 17 2007, 07:34 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 409 Joined: 7-November 03 Member No.: 811 |
http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/se...n810_en_R1.html
Priced at US$ 479. It is definitely on my Christmas list. |
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Oct 17 2007, 08:58 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/se...n810_en_R1.html Priced at US$ 479. It is definitely on my Christmas list. Very nice. |
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Oct 18 2007, 12:30 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 409 Joined: 7-November 03 Member No.: 811 |
Oops, this Review shows that it has a slide keyboard like my SL-5600.
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Oct 18 2007, 04:10 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 12-January 05 Member No.: 6,201 |
Engadget has a hands-on article, along with some pictures. Check it out.
And some details:
I'm really liking this device. It's very powerful (128MB of RAM is a *major* boon, and the OMAP CPU is pretty powerful), has dual wireless, dual SD slots, 2GB internal Storage (and 256MB ROM), GPS, and is quite cheap. All that, but most of all, the fact that it's based on an open platform, which Nokia hasn't tried to close even in the leastest bit (as many other companies do with their Linux-running devices). If custom distros start popping up, then I'm sold. |
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Oct 18 2007, 04:27 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: 12-October 07 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 20,813 |
Just as I thought, the keyboard isn't that handy.
Hmm then again it looks sweet but I also have to agree on these comments about the only 4 hours duration when using internet connection. The Zaurus can only do 2 hours but that devices a bit older as this one. They really should try to improve that. Ah well... |
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Oct 18 2007, 06:50 AM
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dual SD slots, Minor correction: It only has one SD slot and a mini-SD one at that. Mini-SD is a pain if you already have a supply of SD or SDHC cards. Total possible storage on the N810 (2GB + 1 mini-SD slot probably mini-SDHC) will be less than the prior N800 (2 SDHC slots). From what I have read, the 810 is only a minor upgrade from the 800. The key differences are sliding keyboard and gps/maps. And the price differences is nearly double: supposedly USD479 versus current low prices for the 800 of less than USD250. The other hardware and processor is the same -- although clocked higher for the N810. The older N800 will be able to take a free software upgrade which should allow it to have the same software features as the new N810. Supposedly sometime next year Nokia will have a version with wimax or something like that. Oh, one more thing ... am I the only one who doesn't want, doesn't need, and can't have a camera in a device I expect to take everywhere? |
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Oct 18 2007, 07:33 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 9-March 04 Member No.: 2,230 |
dual SD slots, Oh, one more thing ... am I the only one who doesn't want, doesn't need, and can't have a camera in a device I expect to take everywhere? I don't want the camera either. But I do insist on wireless broadband and am not interested in bloototh or usb connections to cell phones (so this device still does not cut it for me). |
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Oct 18 2007, 01:59 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 188 Joined: 1-February 04 Member No.: 1,647 |
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Oct 18 2007, 02:42 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,277 Joined: 29-July 04 From: Cambridge, England Member No.: 4,149 |
scoring against the N800:
+5 adding GPS +2 adding a basic keyboard -3 removing the buttons so you have to open the slider -10 making it single slot miniSD and not dual slot SD/SDHC -2 making the web cam fixed +2 making it slightly smaller |
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