 Pdaxrom Activity, is the distro dying ... ? |
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 Nov 26 2007, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(stupkid @ Nov 27 2007, 05:33 AM)  Are the embedded Debian binaries stripped? Just wondering how much space they take up and why they take up as much as they do. debian takes up more space because all the man pages are included. also the apt-get subsystem is more sophisticated than the ipkg sub-system and thus stores more data for its package management system. You will see that the cache for that is several megs in size compared to several ks. there are lots of other files that the traditional zaurus distros stripped away because they waste space, but debian being 100% GNU/GPL compliant puts all the mandatory license files, readme files, etc... onto the disk when installed. |
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 Nov 26 2007, 10:58 PM
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along the lines of pdax and debian:
I was reminded of pocketworkstation recently-- I hadn't used it in well over a year, and had thought that maybe Klauss had abandoned it. I thought I'd give the pdaX/Pocketworkstation thing a go with pdaxii13v2 and the "new" (to me--been out a while) version 1.0 of PW. I did the usual install and added a couple config lines as detailed in the debian on pdaxrom thread (i think that was the name). Edited my sources list to add security and backports upgraded--edited the sources to etch-and now I have etch living in /usr/debroot. Iceweasel (firefox2) and nvu both run just fine. With the kde squashfs stuff and pocketworkstation installed on full pdax113v2 (with a lot of packeges added) I think I may have made a breakthough in "Heavy/Stable" configs 
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Nov 27 2007, 06:11 PM
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I personally like both PdaXrom and Debian. I would love to have PdaXrom 198 +SP8 on the Nand and Debian on the SD ... with the ability to choose which I wanted to use. It would be cool to have PdaXrom there to recover from that one too many apt-get dist-upgrade snafoo's for instance -lol-. I personally am growing to like u-boot, just need to be able to dual-boot at some point
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Nov 27 2007, 06:53 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,821 Joined: 13-September 04 From: Wasilla Ak. Member No.: 4,572 |
QUOTE(scottlfa @ Nov 27 2007, 05:11 PM) I personally like both PdaXrom and Debian. I would love to have PdaXrom 198 +SP8 on the Nand and Debian on the SD ... with the ability to choose which I wanted to use. It would be cool to have PdaXrom there to recover from that one too many apt-get dist-upgrade snafoo's for instance -lol-. I personally am growing to like u-boot, just need to be able to dual-boot at some point definitely--a tweaked pda/media nand based 2.6 combined with debian on mass storage would be fabulous-- |
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Nov 28 2007, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(adf @ Nov 28 2007, 03:53 AM) QUOTE(scottlfa @ Nov 27 2007, 05:11 PM) I personally like both PdaXrom and Debian. I would love to have PdaXrom 198 +SP8 on the Nand and Debian on the SD ... with the ability to choose which I wanted to use. It would be cool to have PdaXrom there to recover from that one too many apt-get dist-upgrade snafoo's for instance -lol-. I personally am growing to like u-boot, just need to be able to dual-boot at some point definitely--a tweaked pda/media nand based 2.6 combined with debian on mass storage would be fabulous-- After struggling for hours and hours to get any EABI system on my 860 I finally gave in and tried u-boot and r197 + sp8 yesterday. WOW! It just works! Angstrom may be moving faster, but moving alone doesn't cut it. How much easier is u-boot than the ever changing updater from angstrom. Thx for pdaXrom! Now I'm going to learn how to compile for it and my little Z is alive again. (and when I could try dualbooting with debian on SD ... that would be cool!) For the moments to come pdaXrom will stay on my machine. Keep the good work going! detlef |
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Nov 28 2007, 09:54 AM
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http://tyrannozaurus.com/?q=wiki/Main_Page
Check there for compiling and packaging instructions for pdaXrom. |
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Nov 29 2007, 12:49 PM
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For me, I would like to say that I am still a devout follower of the church of PDAX. However, I am in many ways an end user. I dabble a bit and I can figure my way around. I know linux and prefer it over windows. However, I don't program and all of my compliling experiences have ended up being miserable failures. I read the forums daily but it got to the point where I felt bad asking questions because I give next to nothing to the community.
PDAX is not dying, it's just a slow point. it happens with everything --Fish |
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Nov 30 2007, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(Fushnchupsh @ Nov 29 2007, 08:49 PM) I read the forums daily but it got to the point where I felt bad asking questions because I give next to nothing to the community. There's nothing to feel bad about. As long as the questions you're asking are not ones that have obvious answers that can be found with a quick google or a search of the archives then ask away. |
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Nov 30 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(desertrat @ Nov 30 2007, 03:30 AM) There's nothing to feel bad about. As long as the questions you're asking are not ones that have obvious answers that can be found with a quick google or a search of the archives then ask away. You make an excellent point with Google, even for searching the archives. I've had much better experience using Google and specifying the oesf site in the search parameters, than using the oesf site directly. Unless I'm missing something in the oesf search options, it seems that oesf only returns the thread and not the specific posts that contain the search hits. This is a real pain if the thread is long. |
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Nov 30 2007, 07:54 PM
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I haven't responded in this because I was getting into all the comments posted and I'm worried that they would stop once I post... Now... I will say pdaXrom is not dead... I've just been VERY busy... very very busy... and it has been pushed to the back burner... but it isnt dead... :-)
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Nov 30 2007, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(Drake01 @ Nov 30 2007, 11:11 PM) Unless I'm missing something in the oesf search options, it seems that oesf only returns the thread and not the specific posts that contain the search hits. Use the advanced search options. Click on the "Search" link (top right corner), click on "more search options". |
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Dec 1 2007, 06:22 AM
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Yep, to follow up on the advanced search options: Just check the "show results as posts" under "Result Type" in the lower right.
IOS, would there be some alternative way to keep the project running more regularly, say by getting more devs involved actively and giving them more control, instead of putting the project to sleep when you are too busy? After all it is not just a program but an entire distro. Or how about making a release candidate with (Meanie's) hotfixes incorporated? |
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Dec 1 2007, 07:18 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 1,209 Joined: 20-January 06 From: York, Pennsylvania Member No.: 8,961 |
Actually ZDevil, Meanie has incorporated his patches already... they have been incorporated for MONTHS now... and they were incorporated by himself! He has the power to do so... All the devs have the power to due so... Each and every dev has to power to do everything I can do.... We have a LARGE roster of devs, but most devs are pretty busy... But a lot of it is people waiting on me to finsh up with kernel work (sorry I'm a perfectionist) but that fact that I dont have a lot of time... I cant just sit down and stare at code for hours.
So... this isnt me being the "Holder of the Code" it is everyone just being busy with life... just like I am Late |
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Dec 1 2007, 07:32 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 2,003 Joined: 16-April 04 From: the Netherlands && /dev/null Member No.: 2,882 |
I see...
Perhaps it is not such a bad idea to make the bugfixed releases "official" in pdaxrom.org? Or the current r198 is already the one with Meanie's hotfixes (so it's actually different from the initial r198 release)? Sorry to ask this but I don't see the different versioning... |
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Dec 1 2007, 07:39 AM
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Meanie started making his hotfixes compatiable with r197/198 after there releases so they do not have the hotfixes. Thinking about it... that is a good ideas to add to pdaXrom.org I will get a hold of the data and upload it and make it available ASAP.
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