fast 6000 kernel, along with special libsdl Options

[adf]

I think you are ok. If you feel the need to reduce the messages, mostly they seem like things that can be tracked down and edited...like format types.

The speed issue has more to do with sd/cf read/write speeds, I think. maybe do a fps on a game or videa? that would be a better test.
I would be really surprised to see a differennce between the kernel you got from me, and the one from guylhem. mine is compiled from his source tarball.
I am simply cheecking ways to use it to make my ykl do'more.

you might check complilng times as a test too....

[amdonati]

Weird.
I also tried the different kernels (now sticking with adf one) and the speed increase.
Screen refresh is faster,pocketdebian is speedier and games are more playable (i use at the moment snes9x and exult).

Do you use Guylhem freqchange settimgs with the batterychange applet?

Adalberto

[scheck.r]

Weird.
I also tried the different kernels (now sticking with adf one) and the speed increase.
Screen refresh is faster,pocketdebian is speedier and games are more playable (i use at the moment snes9x and exult).

Do you use Guylhem freqchange settings with the  batterychange applet?

Adalberto

I DID use freqchange settings and batterychange applet.
I didn't try Debian, nor games yet, so I can't tell. But I thought a microdrive was faster than regular CF so it should untar as fast as xjqian at least(5mins, Wow !)
I didn't put the special lidsdl from guylhem, does it matter ?
For Adf's kernel, did you need to have modules.lib.tar.gz and modules.links.tar.gz on the CF ?
if yes, did you untar them on internal ROM and then delete usb_ohci_tc6393.o ?
if no, it means you still use stock sharp's modules, isn't it ?
Does it matter also if consolescroll, zImage(guylhem), updater.sh, modules.lib.tar.gz, modules.links.tar.gz were NOT ALONE at the root of the CF ?
Did you need in the maintenance menu to 3. Format also ?

I stop asking questions, I think I am just too dumb

Thank you very much for everybody's help

[amdonati]

Hi,

I'll try to reply, but all corrections/updates from more expert people are very welcomed!

1) Microdrive: I have a 2.2 magicstor Microdrive and tried to use it, but it was painfully slow and very keen to errors under ext2 (In 1 FULL night, it was not able to untar the pocketdebian file!). I moved back to a 512 cf card and now everything is working much better and faster (with the 5500 the situation was definetly better, I do not know why). BTW, I do not think that the fast kernel improves the data transmission speed with the CF, but someone else should confirm this.
2) With adf kernel i did not use the modules from guylhem, I left the stock ones and just deleted the usb_ohci. Everything is apparently working fine.
3) You do not need the SDL libs unless you plan to use programs using them.
4) I do not think it makes any difference if there are other programs/files on the card.
5) No, I did not format, I just used a freshly restored stock rom, and after the update of the kernel I just restored my backup.

Hope this helps,
Ciao,
Adalberto

I didn't try Debian, nor games yet, so I can't tell. But I thought a microdrive was faster than regular CF so it should untar as fast as xjqian at least(5mins, Wow !)
I didn't put the special lidsdl from guylhem, does it matter ?
For Adf's kernel, did you need to have modules.lib.tar.gz and modules.links.tar.gz on the CF ?
if yes, did you untar them on internal ROM and then delete usb_ohci_tc6393.o ?
if no, it means you still use stock sharp's modules, isn't it ?
Does it matter also if consolescroll, zImage(guylhem), updater.sh, modules.lib.tar.gz, modules.links.tar.gz were NOT ALONE at the root of the CF ?
Did you need in the maintenance menu to 3. Format also ?

I stop asking questions, I think I am just too dumb

Thank you very much for everybody's help

[xjqian]

i tried the one without bluetooth.
put consolescroll, zImage (adf, w/o BT), updater.sh in the root of my CF (vfat)
su root
mount -n -o remount,rw /
rm -fr /usr/QtPalmtop.rom/opera/ /home/QtPalmtop/opera/
cp /lib/modules.rom/2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/kernel/drivers/usb/usb_ohci_tc6393.o /mnt/cf/backup (just play safe)
suspend, hit reset
power up while holding down "OK" -> update -> CF
wait for 1 min until it says update successful, please reset. hit reset.
power up as usual

Bravo! my old frient fasterkernel again (I can read from the busy screen scrooling that which modules adf compiled in and loaded during the bootup)

seems people tend to cofuse adf's fasterkernel with gulhems's
adf's is much easier with the price of a little bulkiness, which is well acceptable. you don't need to delete the stock sharp modules, don't need to untar modules.lib.tar.gz, modules.links.tar.gz, and you don't have to fix the sd issues and other module loading issues in rc.d.
[well, with either guyhel's and adf's fastkernel (kernel update), you don't need to start from a clean slate. just update whenever you want, all your installed and synced stuffs are still there. But it's always not a bad idea to do a backup before experimenting] With that said, as you're on the fastkernel, you DO need to do BOTH NAND restore and stock kernel update to bring your Z back to the original state AFAIK.

*tried mouse, all good and moving
*keyboard is a little odd as expected. the one mapped fairly good in the stock kernel looks pretty weird in the kernel. It also messes up the z keyboard after disconnecting which is a little annoying. Have to restart Qtopia to get it back. Anyway, I always use my IR kbd.
*usb keydrive and hdds are all recognized and mountable

used batterychange applet to crank the speed to maximum
*Very impressive Quake and Doom playback. I almost give up on Quake with the stock kernel. Taking forever to go into the scene, but only takes about 30s to load under the adf's fastkernel. Playing Quake in QVGA (magnified) or non-magnified reduced size VGA(if your eye sight is good enough to still dodge bullets/ strafle) mode is very smooth. I used guylhem's libSDL (1.2.so.0.0.7 with it) and quake/doom packages are from cacko feed.
*I timed on gnu-tar zaurus-debian-big-v0.7. Started from a clean reboot and bring the speed to maximum. Kingston ElitePro 60x 1G CF (ext2) in my second CF slot. The memory chip is actually Samsung as I can read from the bootup info. Total Time: 2min 33 sec, NO kidding. Last time I mentioned 5-6 mins because I used a Lexar 4x 1G CF. Don't know why you don't have the speed gain in your setup. I've installed Debian before from the stock kernel. I know exactly how you feel. It's taking 1-2hr or more to unzip the whole thing.
*with fastkernel, either adf's or guyhelm's, the most noticable or user appreciable speed advantage is unzipping large files, which means more to me or maybe others than the improvement on games.

will report back when I have more going on with it. Thanks a lot, adf. This one is a keeper.

[scheck.r]

Thank you very much guys.
It couldn't be clearer.
The more I read this forum, the more I like this community.
I am quite disappointed by my Hitachi microdrive though.
Thanks Adf (and Guylhem of course) for this excellent job and it's so easy and handy to operate.
I am still impressed how can people work so hard to improve our zaurus on their spare time for free and make even better software than big companies.

You guys rock !!!

[adf]

really the kernel is guylhem's refinemint of stuff from tetsu. I just hit radio boxes and tried things out--- pure trial and error. The lack of module complexity might well be seen as a side effect of mental simplicity on my part. I just hated keeping track of all that stuff, and the 32k per module hit on loading convinced me to try to avoid them. the use of the stock sharp kbd and mouse and hid modules was an act of desperation... it worked, but not due to any profound insight.

magicstor is evil. That drive shouldn't be representative of microdrives (though ist sure scared me off the 3000)

I will compile some modules and variants in the next couple days. right now, after I check posts and do mail it is a bit of UT2004 (on debian) w/ my 11 year old.

glad I did something useful though... I've been using other zuggers work for a while, and I agree--ZUG makes the zaurus.

[adf]

posted 2 updated versions.
as usual I have no idea about the bt.. but I trimmed it some and hope it will at least boot. mods should be easy since my workstation works again.

the "regular" kernel is changed a little. it has built in support for serialio's usb-serial adapter and the svt680 family of web/pen cams. the aiptek vga1 (now cheap and plentiful on ebay) is an example ( I just bought one for $(us)16).

good luck... let me know asap re the .bt version

[jbruno]

posted 2 updated versions.
as usual I have no idea about the bt.. but I trimmed it some and hope it will at least boot. mods should be easy since my workstation works again.

the "regular" kernel is changed a little. it has built in support for serialio's usb-serial adapter and the svt680 family of web/pen cams. the aiptek vga1 (now cheap and plentiful on ebay) is an example ( I just bought one for $(us)16). 

good luck... let me know asap re the .bt version

adf - I can't seem to get into anyerlildog2.com with zug/zug.
I get "530 Authentication failed, sorry"

Is that the right place?

[gab74]

where can i download the fast kernel ? I want to try it
Thanks Gabriele

[BarryW]

posted 2 updated versions.
as usual I have no idea about the bt.. but I trimmed it some and hope it will at least boot. mods should be easy since my workstation works again.

the "regular" kernel is changed a little. it has built in support for serialio's usb-serial adapter and the svt680 family of web/pen cams. the aiptek vga1 (now cheap and plentiful on ebay) is an example ( I just bought one for $(us)16). 

good luck... let me know asap re the .bt version

adf - I can't seem to get into anyerlildog2.com with zug/zug.
I get "530 Authentication failed, sorry"

Is that the right place?

Once I installed the ftp program on my Z I could get it, never could get it with my mac. Still having issues with usb, my keyboard isn't recognized, neither is my gps.

[jbruno]

Once I installed the ftp program on my Z I could get it, never could get it with my mac.  Still having issues with usb, my keyboard isn't recognized, neither is my gps.

So could you tell us where it is then?

[adf]

the usb keyboard is kind of an issue. I saw something on relevent modules in the openzaurus forums that I need to look over.

I don't know about your gps. what is is? I use an etrex through usb/serial (the serilaio adapter cable works now though), and hadn't been looking at other options.

I am starting to build a "modules for everything" version, with typical stuff like built in wifi and ext2,3 built in and modules for everything else. I might already have the module you need, if you can tell me what it is?

[BarryW]

Once I installed the ftp program on my Z I could get it, never could get it with my mac.  Still having issues with usb, my keyboard isn't recognized, neither is my gps.

So could you tell us where it is then?

I used the Zaurus ftp program to connect. Hey adf, sorry getting this thread and http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11286 this one mixed up!

[jbruno]

I used the Zaurus ftp program to connect. 

Somebody please help - I need the location of adf's kernel - I don't need to know what FTP client is being used, I need an IP address/name and acct/pswd ?

I'm dying to try out this kernel, but its location is being kept a secret for some reason?