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runixd
post Oct 15 2004, 03:16 AM
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I thought I'll open a new thread as new zaurus seems to be officially announced on sharp.co.jp. I gathered the specs, using online translator:
Name: Zaurus SL-C3000
OS : Linux®(Lineo uLinux)
memory : Flash memory 16MB/SDRAM 64MB (work area)
CPU : Intel® XScaleTM(PXA270 at 416MHz)
Hard disk : Approximately 4GB (User area 3.6GB of which available 2.9GB)
Screen : 640×480 dot, 3.7 type 65,536 color transmitted type system liquid crystal ( backlit)
Input : Keyboard and input board
Infrared : IrDA system (115kbps
Ports : USB port, stereo headphone
Card slot : SD card slot ×1, compact flash slot (Type II)
Power : DC3.7V, 1800mAh lithium ion charge pond, approximately 7 hours
weight : Approximately 298g
dimensions : Width 124mm, depth approximately 87mm× thickness 25mm


Available Working Extension Cards:

GSM(?): WiFi:
LAN: modem: output: memory:
  • SD
  • CF
Other:
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ablakey
post Oct 15 2004, 03:23 AM
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Mini review:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/15/linux_4gb_hdd_pda/
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runixd
post Oct 15 2004, 03:57 AM
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Some links:
Zurus page: http://ezaurus.com/
Zaurus specs: http://www.sharp.co.jp/corporate/news/041015-a-2.html
Add ons: http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/slc3000/text/option.html
About HDD: http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/slc3000/text/4gbhd.html
Translator: http://www.worldlingo.com/products_service...translator.html
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ashikase
post Oct 15 2004, 04:00 AM
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Link to previous thread discussing this, for those that want to catch up:
http://www.oesf.org/forums/inde...?showtopic=7262

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Cyril92
post Oct 15 2004, 04:07 AM
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And more pictures :

Here

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ashikase
post Oct 15 2004, 04:11 AM
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A pretty good review (Japanese):
http://www.mobilenews.ne.jp/news/2004/10/15/slc30002.html
(EDIT: Cyril92 beat me to the punch as I was typing...)


A few points:
- according to this article, the usb port doesn't include host functionality
- the kernel is 2.4.20
- qt is still 1.5.4
- the reviewer claims that the speed feels similar to the c860
- didn't see any mention as to what the 'mystery port' in the back is... many in the 2ch forums are wondering the same thing

I can only hope that Sharp is already working on the next model.

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sigmaX
post Oct 15 2004, 04:16 AM
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First quick impression:

NOT GOOD !!! WHAT are they doing, launching THIS !! a year later from their last release (860) ... IF I wanted 4 gb of storage, I would definitely go for pure memory, not for a mechanincal device. Also I think that a HD by itself, 16mhz more of speed (yes, I know, processor PXA270 should have some other improvements, I hope) and a circular thingy widgety to move the cursor (or whatever) is something like a bluff.

Sorry I am a bit mad, I can't believe sharp is getting something with so lame improvements on the market ... it just should cost them so much money to launch a new product, that they would better be still on the drawing design board, doing a better engineering work, with that money than give light to this gadget.

Anyway, dont take mee too seriously ... I will continue reading all press releases and stuff to see if there is any other surprise that balances things up for this 3000 zaurus smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2004, 04:26 AM
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Both topics now merged.

I think this won't be worth upgrading to. It's only for those storage buffs. I would have preferred it to have built in wifi so we could sort out our own storage solutions with the CF / SD slots. Also, with the advent of 600+MHz Intel XSCALE CPU's they've really skimped on processing power AND SDRAM.

Overall it's just a minor upgrade in my eyes. I'm going to stick with my C860 (when it arrives..) and be happy with it, especially with the latest pdaXrom release smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2004, 04:27 AM
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Boo!!! C860 is queen. - please let her stay queen, as mine works great!
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post Oct 15 2004, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE(Cyril92 @ Oct 15 2004, 12:07 PM)
And more pictures :

Here

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Don't know if you noticed but Lineo have been at the Kernel again.... it seems this new device is cutting the leading edge of kernels with it's..... 2.4.20 kernel.... WHAT are those guys thinking of. RMK has already said that he isn't going to help out with ANY more 2.4 Kernels. sad.gif
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post Oct 15 2004, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE(runixd @ Oct 15 2004, 11:16 AM)
Screen : 640×480 dot, 3.7 type 65,536 color transmitted type system liquid crystal

Uh oh. There may be translation problems, but that sounds like a transmissive screen only, like on the other clamshell models and not like the transflective screen on the 6000. Bummer sad.gif

I wonder how long it will be before HP comes out with an iPAQ clamshell that has a VGA screen, builtin in WiFi, Bluetooth, GSM, and the kitchen sink, like they are including with their usual portrait PDA models. Or perhaps they will just update The iPAQ 4350 to include a VGA screen and CF II slot. That with Familiar/OZ would be nice smile.gif

As has been pointed out, Sharp are targetting the Japenese consumer who has different wants to the US and European consumer and considering the success of the Zaurus in Japan, Sharp certainly knows their target market.

Also I guess the problem with including builtin WiFi at the moment is there are some new standards that are going to appear shortly. But I can see having a WiFi antena sticking out of the CF slot being a pain.
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post Oct 15 2004, 05:00 AM
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didn't see any mention as to what the 'mystery port' in the back is... many in the 2ch forums are wondering the same thing


The standard Sharp Zaurus connector? Would be a bit foolish for them to get rid of this I reckon.

My understanding was that the PXA270 could act as a USB host?: http://www.intel.com/design/embeddedpca/ap...sors/302302.htm

I agree it's a shame about the kernel.


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ashikase
post Oct 15 2004, 05:20 AM
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lardman:

Most likely, it _is_ the I/O connector; the specs list both a USB port and an I/O port.

The thing is, if it's true that USB host functionality isn't included, what's the point of having both ports? There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports on the USB host issue.

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post Oct 15 2004, 06:01 AM
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So sad to see this announcement. In my opinion Sharp missed a huge opportunity as all they really had to change on c860 to have a perfect machine was the following (not hard as they already have all the components):

1. USB host
2. Better screen to use outdoors (ie. sl-c6000) and less waiste of screen real estate
3. New processor with MMX-speedstep
4. Nice to have and probably not to hard to do would be more memory (256 would be nice) and better battery (may not be critical if the speedstep processor works as advertised)

4G hard drive is a joke at this point as soon you can buy CF or SD for under $200 (ok if they put a >20G hard drive maybe I could see the point but this just makes no sense). Any combination of built in wifi/blutooth/gps/gprs etc would also be nice but only provided it can be turned off to save power. I personally would be quite happy to just keep using add-on cards for communications.

All the pieces are there and it's so puzling that they did not realize this. Software and kernel do not matter so much as OZ and pdaXrom are maturing to the point that it's hard to imagine Sharp doing a better job anyway.
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albertr
post Oct 15 2004, 07:05 AM
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What a half-assed model. I hope HP comes up with a clamshell design soon, I just lost my last bit of faith in Sharp...
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