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obscurite
post Aug 17 2005, 05:59 PM
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Well, maybe this will be a good resource for folks who want to try the new Zaurus support in the OpenBSD 3.7 arm port!

Thanks offroadgeek!

LINKS:
Project page - http://www.openbsd.org/zaurus.html
Install docs - ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.7/zaurus/INSTALL.zaurus

P.S. I had difficulty subscribing to the arm port mailing list via gmail. If anyone is already a member, please post a link to this forum on the mailing list. smile.gif
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barryg
post Aug 17 2005, 10:31 PM
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Good day!

Since next the OpenBSD release is near, do use 3.8-beta[0], install instructions
here[1].

The newer version has tons of usb(umass) and apm(sleep on battery low, )
improvements.

It also has the cool package update(pkg_add -u) stuff by miod, making ports
upgrade a breeze.

Additional info on my OpenBSD zaurus here[2].

Mabuhay! barryg

[0]
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/zaurus/

[1]

ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapsho.../INSTALL.zaurus

[2]
http://web.kssp.upd.edu.ph/barryg/zaurus/
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terryleung83
post Aug 18 2005, 11:29 AM
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I want to ask if there is really anyone having openBSD on their Z..
if so, can those tell me if it is stable or not?
and it seems that the installation instructions are so complicated
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mscdex
post Aug 18 2005, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(barryg @ Aug 18 2005, 02:31 AM)
Good day!

Since next the OpenBSD release is near, do use 3.8-beta[0], install instructions
here[1].

The newer version has tons of usb(umass) and apm(sleep on battery low, )
improvements.

It also has the cool package update(pkg_add -u) stuff by miod, making ports
upgrade a breeze.

Additional info on my OpenBSD zaurus here[2].

Mabuhay! barryg

[0]
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/zaurus/

[1]

ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapsho.../INSTALL.zaurus

[2]
http://web.kssp.upd.edu.ph/barryg/zaurus/
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Judging from that 3rd link, this is C3000/C3100 only?
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obscurite
post Aug 18 2005, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(mscdex @ Aug 18 2005, 03:29 PM)
Judging from that 3rd link, this is C3000/C3100 only?
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Yeah, they're saying they're working on C1000 and CXXX. But as of 3.7, it's just the C3XXX models that are supported, although I'm sure from what I saw on the arm ports mailing list that some C1000 owners are running it.
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asm-nai
post Aug 19 2005, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE(terryleung83 @ Aug 19 2005, 04:29 AM)
I want to ask if there is really anyone having openBSD on their Z..
if so, can those tell me if it is stable or not?
and it seems that the installation instructions are so complicated
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Hi.

OpenBSD/zaurus is installed in my SL-C3000.

If it becomes accustomed, the installation work is not difficult. I used wireless LAN and installed it.

The operation of OpenBSD/zaurus is very steady. X Window System moves well, too.

Being able to install various application programs with the ports system is a charm.

I think that it is a very happy experience that uses OpenBSD/zaurus.

However, though now is crazy about the installation and the use of e17 to GPE. tongue.gif
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Cyril92
post Aug 19 2005, 06:59 AM
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Is it possible to see (impressive) screenshots ?

FYI : I was told that the OpenBSD team has bought more than 20 C3000.
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asm-nai
post Aug 19 2005, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Cyril92 @ Aug 19 2005, 11:59 PM)
Is it possible to see (impressive) screenshots ?

FYI : I was told that the OpenBSD team has bought more than 20 C3000.
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Hi.
These are screen shots.





I used WindowMaker0.80,Eterm,Emacs,Kterm,etc.

Thanks.
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obscurite
post Aug 20 2005, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(barryg @ Aug 18 2005, 01:31 AM)
Additional info on my OpenBSD zaurus here[2].


By the way, nice web page barryg!

And nice screenshots asm-nai smile.gif


Someone I know who runs OpenBSD on their C3000 mentioned slow compile times as one problem... can anyone provide some benchmarks? How long does hello world take to compile? How about a kernel? Or even s source package for vi... or whatever wink.gif
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terryleung83
post Aug 20 2005, 04:16 PM
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WA! It rocks!
Another thing I want to know about it is the speed
what is the speed of running application?
does it support openoffice?
if so, what is the time to start it?
(i want to use this to compare the speed with pdaxrom)
Also, can i run qt application in this rom?

Another question, do i need to complie the application myself?
or there is/will be a feed?

and i forgot a thing in the previous post
congrat to get a board here:)
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barryg
post Aug 21 2005, 07:02 PM
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Good day!

QUOTE(obscurite @ Aug 21 2005, 12:40 AM)
Someone I know who runs OpenBSD on their C3000 mentioned slow compile times as one problem... can anyone provide some benchmarks?

How long does hello world take to compile? How about a kernel? Or even s source package for vi... or whatever ;)
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Kernel Compiles:
About an hour, for local CF builds.
USB HDD, an hour.
NFS over USB net about 1.5 hrs.

I don't usually compile kernel, userland and X11 sources, I upgrade via
snapshots. Except if there are interesting commits on the tree ;).

For ports, eg kismet, about an hour, though I'll usually download the sources
and mass compile/install packages overnight on a usb hdd. There are prebuild
packages on openbsd website[0], do use test them for release.


Mabuhay! barryg


[0]
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/arm/
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barryg
post Aug 21 2005, 07:22 PM
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Good day!

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21 2005, 08:16 AM]
WA! It rocks!
Another thing I want to know about it is the speed
what is the speed of running application?
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[/quote]
For X11 apps, tolerable. I have xfig, konqeuror-embedded, dia. etc installed.
I am usually at the console running screen, mutt, vi, elinks, cplay, etc.
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[/quote]

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21_2005, 08:16 AM]
does it support openoffice?
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No. I personally use antiword to view word docs, and abiword to edit them, for
my reports and documents i use LaTeX,.
No solutions for xls files(gnumeric is a pig, ;))
I use magicpoint for my presentations.

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21_2005, 08:16 A >
if so, what is the time to start it?
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Good luck, even on the i386, a smooth running OpenOffice uses linux emulation.

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21_2005, 08:16 AM]
(i want to use this to compare the speed with pdaxrom)
Also, can i run qt application in this rom?
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QT, as in native zaurus apps? No, AFAIK there is no linux emulation in
openbsd-arm.

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21_2005, 08:16 AM]
Another question, do i need to complie the application myself?
or there is/will be a feed?
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No, there are prebuilt binaries and packages, see previous posts for URL.

[quote=terryleung83,Aug 21_2005, 08:16 AM]
and i forgot a thing in the previous post
congrat to get a board here:)
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[/quote]

Mabuhay! barryg
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obscurite
post Aug 21 2005, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(barryg @ Aug 21 2005, 10:02 PM)
For ports, eg kismet, about an hour, though I'll usually download the sources
and mass compile/install packages overnight on a usb hdd.  There are prebuild
packages on openbsd website[0], do use test them for release.


How about cross compiling ports on your desktop?
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barryg
post Aug 21 2005, 09:28 PM
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Good day!

QUOTE(obscurite @ Aug 22 2005, 12:37 PM)
How about cross compiling ports on your desktop?
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Not supported.
So either use the prebuild packages[0] or compile and install them while snor^H^H^H^Hleeping ;).

Mabuhay! barryg

[0]
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/arm/
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post Aug 23 2005, 07:34 AM
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This looks very impressive. How does it compare to pdaXrom? Where can I follow news on development? I have a C1000 and would like to try this OS. I'm sure using a large SD card would make up for no internal HD. Thank you.
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