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post Jan 3 2006, 05:25 AM
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hello out there,

i read about users who wanted to sell their tosa, others bought a 2nd
zaurus and again others flash frequently from rom to rom. some time ago
i also had the idea to change the zaurus model. there must be reasons for
that and i think its not the hardware aspect of this device.

the aim of this thread should be to share your thoughts and experiences
on the different roms. it can also be useful for others who want to test
a different rom. what do you like, what do you hate? what works, what doesnt?

i will start with my opinion on the different roms. some of them i used for
several months, some only for several hours. but maybe others will write more
on the roms, i only tested.

before i start, i should mention for what i use my zaurus most of the time:
reading news with opiereader, pim (kopi), latex, wikipedia with zbedic,
from time to time mp3s and ebooks...


for the moment it seems to be the best choice for me. i used it for the
most of the time, but nevertheless my report is short.

installed/working applications (besides usual ones): tex/dviviewer,
usb keyboard (also usb mouse, but i dont use it), xqt/pocketworkstation,
giant icons on root

todo: maybe i will replace the default fonts and update opera

pros: stability, browser opera, wlan out of box

cons: no progress, no development --> no future ?!


i used (maybe i should write tested) it for nearly 3 months with ups and downs.
in the end i had the feeling that i dont use this rom on a daily basis, i was
spending a lot of time in getting things to work. i had problems with
suspend/resume and in some cases only taking off the battery helped.

this was more than 6 months ago. now i tried 1.1 beta out and i was suprised
but in the negative. it took me 10 minutes to flash back as everything
i tried out went wrong: i started scite and dillo, minimized it,
then i recognized that the time was wrong. setting the time resulted in turning
off the backlight and killing the minimized applications?! i added a rotation
applet on the taskbar. but i was not able to rotate back. suspending confuses
me as the backlight is turned off for more than one second and then the device
does that what it should do.

all this sounds bad, but it is nothing serious. i know that a lot of tosa users
use this rom, so it has to be good. and be sure that i will give it another try,
maybe using a different wm than matchbox.

pros: great, active community and communication. very nice rom with all the
advantages of X application. the idea of running the same wm on my linux box
(kde) and my zaurus is somehow cool.
cons: see above. maybe the speed of the tosa (and the rom) is not sufficient
enough to run big applications like kde.


oz was the reason getting me a linux pda instead of a pocket pc. i owned a
collie running hentges rom and everything was fine, ii was also running
sharp applications under opie with compat libs.

pros: very structured development with higher aims (i dont know if this is
a really pro in view of the users). upcoming kernel 2.6, but unfortunately
the tosa device does not play a main role for natural reasons.
ability to run a lot of applications, those of the sharprom world with opie
and compat libs and also X applications with gpe. the dual boot idea is
also very good.

cons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, which hold me back on jumping on
this train, in the first place the line drawing bug, sound problems with opie,
missing keys. the bad thing in my opinion is that all the mentioned bugs are
not new and are well known from previous releases.
i dislike the feed structure of oz. net, network, networking, this confuses me,
a directory named e and a lot of ones with only one package, hundreds of
"locales". maybe it doesnt matter for those who use ipkg from the console,
but if you want to use the package manager it matters..


a kind of "one man show". i tried it in the beginning and had the feeling
that this rom was more or less a personal nand backup, a kind of snapshot.
i also tried the fast kernel thing getting me crazy as the "f" key turned
the light on and off. natural consequence: i avoided this rom for months.
now i tried rc4 and i was suprised. i like the boot screen (no confusing
warnings as before). a lot of things changed.

pros: the exact battery applet, nice fonts. the idea of getting the existing
rom more usable. guylhem used nicer fonts, why not use nicer icons?

cons: i removed a lot of applications and installed some others, but i was
not able to remove the corresponding icons or to move them between
the categories with the help of the launcher. restarting opie and rebooting
didnt changed anything except the touchscreen was not responding (maybe i
removed the wrong applications).
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post Feb 22 2006, 11:51 PM
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I've actually been relatively content with the Sharp ROM -- relatively, I mean, compared to what else is on offer. Anything that involves extensive terminal tweaking after flash is enough to put me off changing: maybe because I'm lazy, maybe because I'm stupid, or maybe because "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" seems like pretty a good philosophy for something I use every day for writing, e-mailing, PIM and listening to music. I really can't afford to have it in some half-finished beta state.

For all intents and purposes, the Qtopia/Sharp ROM is polished and stable, if not exactly feature-rich. I personally would rather see enhancements to it instead of a slew of whole new projects, but that might only be because I have no coding skills whatsoever and an aversion to heavy-duty tinkering (which I'd say goes beyond the definition of tinkering).

One thing I can't understand is, why can't we find a 6000W ROM and extract the Bluetooth software modules from there? (I think guylhem's got one already.) That way, the 6000 would have native BT support and we could be ahead of other models in at least one software category.
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post Feb 23 2006, 05:16 PM
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any imporvements on oz on the 6k?
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post Feb 24 2006, 03:23 AM
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QUOTE(adf @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 AM)
any imporvements on oz on the 6k?

IIRC working keymaps and working suspend/resume.
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malik   Rom Discussion On Tosa   Jan 3 2006, 05:25 AM
DrWowe   I switch between pdaXrom (the newest beta version ...   Jan 3 2006, 06:11 AM
loc4me   QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 09:11 AM)I switch ...   Jan 3 2006, 09:40 AM
DrWowe   QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 08:11 AM)I'm t...   Jan 4 2006, 08:00 PM
loc4me   QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 4 2006, 11:00 PM)QUOTE(DrW...   Jan 4 2006, 08:51 PM
speculatrix   QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 3 2006, 08:11 AM)Any ideas...   Jan 5 2006, 03:56 AM
malik   QUOTE(DrWowe @ Jan 5 2006, 04:00 AM)Just an u...   Jan 5 2006, 04:22 AM
lardman   QUOTEcons: there are some bugs in oz 3.5.4 rc1, wh...   Jan 3 2006, 10:34 AM
speculatrix   as I understood it, Guylhem ROM for 6000 was a wor...   Jan 3 2006, 12:36 PM
malik   @drwowe> sure, i am very interested in the guyl...   Jan 4 2006, 05:20 AM
lardman   QUOTEthe sound problem only appeared in opieplayer...   Jan 4 2006, 09:33 AM
Zal42   I've tried each of the ROMs for the 6000, and ...   Jan 4 2006, 10:26 AM
jbruno   I use pdaXrom, rc12 version. AFAIK, the only thin...   Jan 4 2006, 10:38 AM
LeTic   I agree with Malik, maybe you could agree with the...   Jan 5 2006, 05:06 AM
xjqian   Looking forward to the Guylhem + Cacko.   Jan 14 2006, 10:21 AM
johnw   I would love a better ROM than the Sharp ROM, and ...   Jan 27 2006, 08:36 PM
speculatrix   any news on CG6000 rom?   Feb 22 2006, 02:18 PM
eji   I've actually been relatively content with the...   Feb 22 2006, 11:51 PM
adf   any imporvements on oz on the 6k?   Feb 23 2006, 05:16 PM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 AM)any imporve...   Feb 24 2006, 03:23 AM
ken   QUOTE(eji @ Feb 22 2006, 09:51 PM)One thing I...   Mar 6 2006, 01:13 AM
coolass   Is there any other Rom for the sl-6000 that will a...   Mar 3 2006, 11:19 AM
koen   QUOTE(coolass @ Mar 3 2006, 07:19 PM)Is there...   Mar 3 2006, 12:27 PM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Mar 3 2006, 08:27 PM)QUOTE(coola...   Mar 5 2006, 11:51 PM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Mar 6 2006, 07:51 AM)QUOTE(koen ...   Mar 6 2006, 01:25 AM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Mar 6 2006, 09:25 AM)QUOTE(adf ...   Mar 6 2006, 01:39 PM
trichmon   Does OZ support wake on alarms yet? I mean does...   Mar 6 2006, 08:44 AM
nevarrie   I am starting to play with running pdaxrom with en...   Mar 6 2006, 11:35 AM
egg8178   Nevarrie, It would be really nice if you could sha...   Mar 6 2006, 08:25 PM
enlightened_j   e17 on Zaurus 6000 looks pretty sweet!! I...   May 16 2006, 02:15 PM
eji   QUOTE(enlightened_j @ May 16 2006, 10:15 PM)e...   May 16 2006, 09:37 PM
enlightened_j   QUOTE(eji @ May 17 2006, 05:37 AM)How's t...   May 17 2006, 01:51 PM
trichmon   QUOTE(enlightened_j @ May 17 2006, 01:51 PM)Q...   May 18 2006, 10:34 PM
enlightened_j   QUOTE(trichmon @ May 19 2006, 06:34 AM)I see ...   May 24 2006, 03:01 PM
nevarrie   QUOTE(egg8178 @ Mar 6 2006, 10:25 PM)Nevarrie...   May 17 2006, 12:02 PM
Hrw   nevarie: try wlan-ng 0.2.1-pre26 - they should wor...   Mar 6 2006, 01:48 PM
trichmon   Its been awhile since this thread was started and ...   Jun 13 2006, 02:26 PM
adf   QUOTE(trichmon @ Jun 13 2006, 10:26 PM)Its be...   Jun 13 2006, 05:13 PM
trichmon   adf, Im currently using the tetsu kernel that you...   Jun 13 2006, 07:01 PM
malik   thanx for the discussion on the tetsu kernel :-) i...   Jun 19 2006, 01:09 AM
trichmon   I have noticed that as well. Im not sure what the...   Jun 19 2006, 07:12 AM
malik   QUOTE(trichmon @ Jun 19 2006, 03:12 PM)I have...   Jun 20 2006, 12:14 AM
malik   according to the table at the end of tetsu's h...   Jul 10 2006, 01:08 AM
adf   [atm I'm running sharp/tetsu/pocketworkstation...   Jul 10 2006, 01:27 AM
ken   QUOTE(adf @ Jul 9 2006, 11:27 PM)[atm I'm...   Jul 10 2006, 01:44 AM
adf   kernel upgrade from tetsu tesu.homelinux.org modu...   Jul 10 2006, 02:08 AM
xjqian   I flashed to pdaXrom 1.1.0beta1 today. However, st...   Aug 7 2006, 12:24 AM
miskinis   QUOTE(xjqian @ Aug 7 2006, 04:24 AM)I flashed...   Aug 7 2006, 03:03 AM
nevarrie   QUOTE(xjqian @ Aug 7 2006, 02:24 AM)I flashed...   Aug 7 2006, 01:59 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(nevarrie @ Aug 7 2006, 04:59 PM)I uses ...   Aug 7 2006, 07:07 PM
miskinis   Hmm, I can't say for 100% sure, but I think so...   Aug 8 2006, 01:54 AM
nevarrie   I forgot abou the fact that I set my root partitio...   Aug 8 2006, 10:22 AM
xjqian   thanks miskinis and nevarrie, out-of-space during ...   Aug 8 2006, 11:59 PM
xjqian   searched over all places but still have no clue ho...   Aug 9 2006, 01:26 AM
nevarrie   QUOTE(xjqian @ Aug 9 2006, 03:26 AM)searched ...   Aug 9 2006, 09:31 AM
miskinis   Look for a pointer to the "6000 tutorial...   Aug 14 2006, 02:24 PM
adf   you know... I was thinkiing about this 6000 wirele...   Aug 14 2006, 06:15 PM
xjqian   pdaXrom experiences after a week: +++ wifi problem...   Aug 17 2006, 12:31 AM
malik   @xjqian: concerning the rotation on pdaxrom: the f...   Aug 17 2006, 02:19 AM
xjqian   Thanks manik, I was able to fix the screen rotatio...   Aug 26 2006, 04:36 AM
coolass   Is there any other rom with wifi working out of th...   Aug 18 2006, 08:09 AM
nevarrie   QUOTE(coolass @ Aug 18 2006, 10:09 AM)Is ther...   Aug 18 2006, 01:01 PM
speculatrix   the latest OZ is pretty good, I reflas...   Oct 6 2006, 07:47 AM
adf   QUOTE(speculatrix @ Oct 6 2006, 03:47 PM)the ...   Oct 6 2006, 08:56 AM
speculatrix   there is a way using compatibility libraries to in...   Oct 6 2006, 01:42 PM
adf   ok..dl'd OZ 3.5.4 (newest I could find for tos...   Nov 12 2006, 01:32 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 12 2006, 09:32 AM)ok..dl...   Nov 12 2006, 01:37 AM
adf   figures.... the image I'm looking for minutes ...   Nov 12 2006, 01:43 AM
adf   nice splash screen snappy-faster than i remembered...   Nov 12 2006, 02:02 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 12 2006, 10:02 AM)nice splash...   Nov 12 2006, 02:46 AM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Nov 12 2006, 10:46 AM)QUOTE(adf ...   Nov 12 2006, 02:28 PM
adf   IT mounted my 4 gig sd!! formatted it and...   Nov 12 2006, 03:14 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 12 2006, 06:14 PM)IT mounted ...   Nov 12 2006, 09:32 PM
adf   QUOTE(xjqian @ Nov 13 2006, 05:32 AM)QUOTE(ad...   Nov 12 2006, 11:30 PM
adf   Ok. 3.5.2 is really nice on the 6k so far. Even th...   Nov 13 2006, 09:46 AM
koen   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 13 2006, 05:46 PM)The next qu...   Nov 13 2006, 12:20 PM
adf   QUOTE(koen @ Nov 13 2006, 08:20 PM)QUOTE(adf ...   Nov 17 2006, 07:21 PM
adf   Opie works nicely. The wireless stuff is working f...   Dec 2 2006, 02:09 PM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 13 2006, 02:30 AM)BUt pdaXrom...   Nov 14 2006, 06:40 PM
munch   Had a question on firefox on pocketworkstation , i...   Dec 4 2006, 08:52 AM
adf   thats enough swap. have you tried meanies" XQ...   Dec 4 2006, 06:41 PM
munch   QUOTE(adf @ Dec 4 2006, 06:41 PM)thats enough...   Dec 5 2006, 09:52 AM
adf   It should. It seems to work pretty well from what...   Dec 5 2006, 10:35 AM
xjqian   QUOTE(adf @ Nov 12 2006, 06:14 PM)IT mounted ...   Jan 17 2007, 07:30 AM
sdjf   That must be specific to your ROM? My vfat SD car...   Aug 3 2008, 02:57 PM
chesserm   You have to be kidding me! You're replyin...   Aug 8 2008, 08:35 AM

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