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> Gemini PDA Gen 2 Features Request, Ideas for future version
andrewl
post May 29 2018, 09:19 PM
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I've found the keyboard key action on my later order Gemini (47xx) to be perfect, there is nothing about any of the keys I would describe as wobbly.
Even the space bar works fine with an edge press. I wouldn't change a thing.
In fact I would only want backlit keyboard if it were possible to disable it (to save battery life) as the touch-typability of the Gemini means that I don't need to look at it anyway. This is a skill developed many years ago on Psion that I didn't lose over the years.
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post Jun 14 2018, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Lyall Pearce @ Mar 26 2018, 06:40 AM) *
1. A spacebar that works on the left and right side of the key, rather than only in the centre

Have you tried this: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34914
I did something similar, but used a piece of a sticky label instead of paper. Since then my entire spacebar has worked just fine. Do note that anything thicker than around 0.1mm may prevent the Gemini from closing properly and, in my case, made spacebar feel mushy. A 0.07mm (according to my cheap digital calipers) sticky label was just right for my keyboard (on which I'm typing this).
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post Jun 15 2018, 12:52 AM
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Hi,

two years ago I re-activated my Psion 5mx because I wasn't really satisfied with an android tablet for things like text typing (note taking during seminars and such). Though, of course, the Psion 5mx is a technical dinosaur.

I will now switch to the PC Gemini, thus retire my good old Psion 5mx again, because in my opion the PC Gemini merges the best from both worlds.

So far I don't have any requests for features the lack of which would nag me. Just a dream: a conversion app like the good old PsiWin, which would be able to import all that data (word, jotter, data) from the Psion world.

Kind regards
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asti
post Jun 15 2018, 02:12 AM
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For my purposes (I write a lot without table/desk) it would be cool to have

- Energy saving display (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_Qi)
- Back lit keyboard
- Some improvements for thumb typing (without sticky keys the Gemini is a way to wide and no fun)

A slightly larger writing tool (https://cl5944.myportfolio.com/product-service-scripto) is another of my dreams.

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post Jun 20 2018, 10:36 AM
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One thing I hadn't picked up on was there's no volume control buttons on the outside. I simply took them for granted.

I didn't think I'd miss the fingerprint reader of my LG V20, but I do, because I use LastPass and I can unlock LP and sign in to a website with the touch of a finger.

I'd also like the AptX codec; this may mean switching from Mediatek to Qualcomm for the CPU/GPU SoC. The sound through my bluetooth headset (LG HBS900) is better on my old phone. This is particularly because the sound through the wired headphone jack has a lot of electronic "fuzz" noise.


As before, a miniature trackball would be a bonus. And standardised USB-C video mode to use standard USB-C hubs with HDMI out.


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post Jun 20 2018, 12:22 PM
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Backlighting the keyboard would be tricky if they want to avoid making it any thicker, an alternative might be to put a LED roughly where the ambient light sensor is pointing across the keyboard, perhaps a UV LED and phosphorescent ink on the keys would prevent stray (visible) light dazzling the user.

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A Hub/Docking station, slightly wedge shaped to to match the open Gemini and plugging into the right USB C, the hub should have HDMI, RJ45 a few USB A & C sockets, a SD card reader at the front and a track pad on the flat upper surface, power pass through would be nice but might be impractical. Could be used abutting the Gemini or with a short male to female USB C lead put to the left side (for left handers).

Actually the track pad could be optional, just have a blank top plate for users who hate track pads, perhaps with a small pile of Planet branded Post-It notes :-)
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post Jun 20 2018, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(DJO @ Jun 20 2018, 09:22 PM) *
Backlighting the keyboard would be tricky if they want to avoid making it any thicker


perhaps optical fibres could guide the light from some hidden LEDs to under the key caps?
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post Jun 20 2018, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(andrewl @ May 30 2018, 06:19 AM) *
I've found the keyboard key action on my later order Gemini (47xx) to be perfect

Having done some more typing on my second-batch Gemini, I can say that it's keyboard is clearly not as good as the Psion's.  The keys are noisier (and I mean the physical clicky sound, as I've turned off the haptic/vibration and software sounds), they're more likely to stick if you don't press them near the centre, and they're relatively insensitive (many presses don't register).

And the spacebar is particularly bad.  Not in the obvious way, though; it works at most points along its length, but you have to hit it pretty close to the middle of its width.  If I hit it just a few mm too far up or down, it sticks and won't press. (On my 5mx, you can the spacebar anywhere along any edge or corner.  On the Gemini, anywhere near the Voice Assistant label sticks solid.)

It's not bad, and better than some keyboards I've used, but there's still clear room for improvement.

And on the software side, far too many apps don't recognise PgUp/PgDn/Home/End; and there's no way to type characters such as curly quotes and long dashes (and anything else not listed in the Sym or emoji pop-ups).

Plus (as discussed elsewhere) it could do with key shortcuts in the AppBar or elsewhere.
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post Jun 22 2018, 05:24 PM
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For the trackball people, would a nipple (1990s toshiba) fit the bill? A trackball would either make the Gemini wider or deeper.

A nipple could sit between the V & B keys. Although, I remember the Tosh one being in the middle row of letter keys.
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post Jun 26 2018, 06:21 AM
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Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I'd prefer being able to use a wired headset (ie, I wish the 3.5mm jack would work with a wired headset).
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post Jun 29 2018, 08:21 AM
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My list after 3 weeks of happy usage...

1) backlit keyboard
2) hardware volume control
3) fingerprint reader
4) Dock with USB3 ports, HDMI, card reader storage etc.
5) small screen on outside or a different design that allows the screen to be on outside.when closed
6) decent camera - like One+ 5 has
7) better wifi
8) more internal storage for dual boot
9) software switching between OS without reboot!
10) wider screen
11) more than one position for the screen - when watching movies on my daily commute it could do with being 10-15 degrees more upright as the bag on my lap is not level!
12) matt screen

But I love it as it is and hope Planet Computers can make a success of it past the crowd funded campaign.
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post Jul 1 2018, 03:12 AM
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Please add a hole for attaching a strap. I live in constant fear of dropping my Gemini.
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andrewl
post Jul 1 2018, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Calamityspice @ Jun 22 2018, 05:24 PM) *
For the trackball people, would a nipple (1990s toshiba) fit the bill? A trackball would either make the Gemini wider or deeper.

A nipple could sit between the V & B keys. Although, I remember the Tosh one being in the middle row of letter keys.


1990s Toshiba or 2018 Dell laptop. 5590 for example, has one.

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post Jul 2 2018, 02:18 AM
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1) Phone keypad and little screen with caller display details on the exterior, like the Nokia Communicators.
2) NFC
3) Properly-integrated camera

Other than that, love it.
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post Jul 7 2018, 01:10 PM
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Some G2 speculation - Gemini PDA could get a Wear OS powered second screen
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