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irukandji
post Jan 21 2020, 01:23 AM
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PC is constantly referring to some "Linux community". Does anyone know what community this is? (url? git? irc?)
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post Jan 21 2020, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(irukandji @ Jan 21 2020, 01:23 AM) *
PC is constantly referring to some "Linux community". Does anyone know what community this is? (url? git? irc?)


Ummm.....it's you actually........

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and me and everyone else out there that would like linux on their Planet devices...

For the Gemini, it was mainly Adam Boardman, who posts over in the Gemini forum section, who developed the 'Gemian' release.

Don't know if he is working on the Cosmo version or if someone else volunteered....

https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-a.../wiki/DebianTP2


Plus he released some other apps...see links on page link above....


Hope this helps.

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post Jan 21 2020, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Jan 21 2020, 07:21 AM) *
Ummm.....it's you actually........

smile.gif

and me and everyone else out there that would like linux on their Planet devices...


Might do some kernel work, but I am quite busy atm with paid project work... So I most likely I won't be able to engage fast...
The major problem for Linux on the Cosmo is to have some usable (like usable as a phone) integrated user interface, like we had with Maemo on the Nokia N900. Debian on the Gemini is nice, but it is more like a micro laptop, not really usable for the phone use case.

Maybe it is better to see the current Debian (well, current for the Gemini) as a board support package and concentrate on Maemo Leste ( https://maemo-leste.github.io/ ). This would give us a full GNU/Linux experience with phone usability.

Opinions?

Mith
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Jujuyeh
post Jan 21 2020, 02:54 PM
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What about Plasma Mobile? I think that could work on top of Debian, and it would bring a phone UI.

https://www.plasma-mobile.org/get/


Also, I'd like to point out that there's some work going on with Halium support for the Cosmo (https://github.com/gemian?tab=repositories). This makes sense when you want to port GNU/Linux to an Android device with closed source drivers... It would be easier for PC to get Linux support if they got to free the drivers. Maybe they want to free such drivers but they have some sort of enclosure with the manufacturer, and this issue doesn't depend on PC.
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post Jan 22 2020, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE(ArchiMark @ Jan 21 2020, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE(irukandji @ Jan 21 2020, 01:23 AM) *
PC is constantly referring to some "Linux community". Does anyone know what community this is? (url? git? irc?)


Ummm.....it's you actually........

smile.gif

and me and everyone else out there that would like linux on their Planet devices...


Well why I am asking is, that I would love to help but bootloader is not yet released and I need something to work with,. And I cant find anything...
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post Jan 22 2020, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE(mithrandir @ Jan 21 2020, 02:31 PM) *
Might do some kernel work, but I am quite busy atm with paid project work... So I most likely I won't be able to engage fast...
The major problem for Linux on the Cosmo is to have some usable (like usable as a phone) integrated user interface, like we had with Maemo on the Nokia N900. Debian on the Gemini is nice, but it is more like a micro laptop, not really usable for the phone use case.

Maybe it is better to see the current Debian (well, current for the Gemini) as a board support package and concentrate on Maemo Leste ( https://maemo-leste.github.io/ ). This would give us a full GNU/Linux experience with phone usability.

Opinions?


Speaking as a former N900 user that sounds grand. Alas, I am not competent to do any of the development, but happy to encourage those who are!
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post Jan 22 2020, 07:12 AM
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Personally I don't care about a phone like UI. I bought the cosmo in order to have a laptop UI :-)
What would be great for me to work with cosmo under Debian :
- LXDE/Cinnamon or equivalent
- 4G/3G modem
- WIFI
- bluetooth
- all the other things would be here with Debian distro
- and as an exception : an app with a phone UI for calling (in order to use my fingers on the screen) and eventually using external speakers and make call fusion + call management via CODI
I am a network and system engineer. I would be happy to help :-)
PS : I was a N900 user and I loved this phone with debian chroot. But if I had to choose, I would prefer laptop UI rather than phone UI on a phone with a physical keyboard that you have to deploy anyway :-)
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post Jan 22 2020, 08:33 AM
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Ok so found this today... Jumping the gun a bit, but thinking about building it. I guess now we can resize and change the bootloader, all we need to do i put the an img file on an SD card and point the bootloader at it.... Has anyone else tried successfully yet?

https://github.com/gemian/cosmo-linux-kernel-4.4

Thanks
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post Jan 27 2020, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(g.husson @ Jan 22 2020, 04:12 PM) *
Personally I don't care about a phone like UI. I bought the cosmo in order to have a laptop UI :-)
What would be great for me to work with cosmo under Debian :
- LXDE/Cinnamon or equivalent
- 4G/3G modem
- WIFI
- bluetooth
- all the other things would be here with Debian distro
- and as an exception : an app with a phone UI for calling (in order to use my fingers on the screen) and eventually using external speakers and make call fusion + call management via CODI
I am a network and system engineer. I would be happy to help :-)
PS : I was a N900 user and I loved this phone with debian chroot. But if I had to choose, I would prefer laptop UI rather than phone UI on a phone with a physical keyboard that you have to deploy anyway :-)


It should be possible to switch between the phone UI and the laptop UI with a hotkey (same as switching between ttys).
So the phone UI could be similar to e.g. Sailfish UI (using wayland) and an native X11 UI rolleyes.gif .

Best regards
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post Jan 27 2020, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Elevennails @ Jan 22 2020, 08:33 AM) *
Ok so found this today... Jumping the gun a bit, but thinking about building it. I guess now we can resize and change the bootloader, all we need to do i put the an img file on an SD card and point the bootloader at it.... Has anyone else tried successfully yet?

https://github.com/gemian/cosmo-linux-kernel-4.4

Thanks


OK Still trying to jump the gun smile.gif

As above I've resized the partition ready for Debian. If i copy the gemini debain_boot.img and linux.img files to the SDCard from here

http://support.planetcom.co.uk/download/Li...uxFirmware.html

Boot to recovery and select "Install custom OS on your COSMO"

a. Will the install actually find the .img files and start the install?
b. If the install starts will it trash the existing android partitions (that would be upsetting) or will it just consume the free space I've created. Or will it prompt
c. If the install completes will anything work biggrin.gif. If i can get the basic OS to install, I could extract the debian.img and change the runlevel and reinstall just to get a prompt and start fixing stuff.


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g.husson
post Jan 29 2020, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(gabs5807 @ Jan 27 2020, 06:50 PM) *
It should be possible to switch between the phone UI and the laptop UI with a hotkey (same as switching between ttys).
So the phone UI could be similar to e.g. Sailfish UI (using wayland) and an native X11 UI rolleyes.gif .

This would be perfectly great :-)
With external silver key when cosmo is opened for example ?
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g.husson
post Jan 29 2020, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(Elevennails @ Jan 22 2020, 08:33 AM) *
As above I've resized the partition ready for Debian. If i copy the gemini debain_boot.img and linux.img files to the SDCard from here
Boot to recovery and select "Install custom OS on your COSMO"
a. Will the install actually find the .img files and start the install?
b. If the install starts will it trash the existing android partitions (that would be upsetting) or will it just consume the free space I've created. Or will it prompt
c. If the install completes will anything work biggrin.gif. If i can get the basic OS to install, I could extract the debian.img and change the runlevel and reinstall just to get a prompt and start fixing stuff.

Update #44 from Cosmo Communicator : "Similarly, please do not attempt to use Gemini Linux or other OS images on your Cosmo."
==> do this at your own risk :-)
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post Jan 29 2020, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(g.husson @ Jan 29 2020, 09:04 AM) *
==> do this at your own risk :-)


Just don't. Gemini boot image will be unbootable on the Cosmo. The root image file will most probably be incompatible with the new install mechanism.
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