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> PgUp / PgDn (Page Up / Page Down) not working?
Alius
post May 15 2018, 06:51 AM
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After a quick chat on #gemini-pda on IRC, it seems I am not alone. And there did not seem to be an existing topic on this issue. As Linux users report functional pgup/pgdn, I am creating this topic under the Android OS subforum. If I missed an existing topic please feel free to merge or ignore me smile.gif

Does anyone have WORKING PgUp/PgDn keys in Android?

Apps I have tried and in which the keys do not work (treated as normal Up/Down arrows instead):

JuiceSSH
Microsoft remote desktop client for Android
TeamViewer
Firefox

Edit: And yes I followed the instructions at http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Configuration to update the keyboard application and configure the layout. I have a US English model Gemini from batch 2.

Edit 2: Additional apps where pgup/pgdn do not work: Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel :-/
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post May 15 2018, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Alius @ May 15 2018, 09:51 AM) *
After a quick chat on #gemini-pda on IRC, it seems I am not alone. And there did not seem to be an existing topic on this issue. As Linux users report functional pgup/pgdn, I am creating this topic under the Android OS subforum. If I missed an existing topic please feel free to merge or ignore me smile.gif

Does anyone have WORKING PgUp/PgDn keys in Android?

Apps I have tried and in which the keys do not work (treated as normal Up/Down arrows instead):

JuiceSSH
Microsoft remote desktop client for Android
TeamViewer
Firefox

Edit: And yes I followed the instructions at http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Configuration to update the keyboard application and configure the layout. I have a US English model Gemini from batch 2.

Edit 2: Additional apps where pgup/pgdn do not work: Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel :-/


I can at least verify that under Android the PgUp/PgDn/Home/End don't seem to work. I was hoping that Planet would be coming out with some software updates for that.
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Alius
post May 15 2018, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the input. I too hope this will have a software fix at some point.
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post May 15 2018, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Alius @ May 15 2018, 02:41 PM) *
Thanks for the input. I too hope this will have a software fix at some point.


If only Planet Computers had someplace official that we could submit bugs to and have them acknowledged and tracked.
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post May 15 2018, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Grench @ May 16 2018, 06:35 AM) *
QUOTE(Alius @ May 15 2018, 02:41 PM) *
Thanks for the input. I too hope this will have a software fix at some point.


If only Planet Computers had someplace official that we could submit bugs to and have them acknowledged and tracked.


Page up and down work fine for me, but only in apps which support it. In TextMaker it does exactly what you expect. Home and End also work. I think it is just that some apps don't support the page up/down keys. They don't work, for example, viewing pages in firefox.
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post May 15 2018, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Grench @ May 15 2018, 04:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Alius @ May 15 2018, 02:41 PM) *
Thanks for the input. I too hope this will have a software fix at some point.


If only Planet Computers had someplace official that we could submit bugs to and have them acknowledged and tracked.



Aye, seems no new input to that discussion in a month or so.

One quick additional note: Home/End DO work for me in the text messaging app, although not in Microsoft Word or passed through Microsoft's remote desktop client for android

QUOTE(vader @ May 15 2018, 06:43 PM) *
Page up and down work fine for me, but only in apps which support it. In TextMaker it does exactly what you expect. Home and End also work. I think it is just that some apps don't support the page up/down keys. They don't work, for example, viewing pages in firefox.


Interesting, thanks! It sounds like I had just not yet found any app that supports page up/down. Disappointing that JuiceSSH does not, since that means i have to use the on screen pop-up keyboard to scroll in irssi
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post May 16 2018, 03:56 PM
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Just a note that emails sent to hello@planetcom.co.uk do seem to receive a ticket number, though follow up is not always great.
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post May 19 2018, 11:17 PM
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I have the same problem. Though I note that in chrome alt+up and alt+down work, but I really need them to work in termux. No matter, as tonight I will install linux...
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post May 20 2018, 05:48 AM
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QUOTE(munchausen @ May 20 2018, 03:17 AM) *
I have the same problem. Though I note that in chrome alt+up and alt+down work, but I really need them to work in termux. No matter, as tonight I will install linux...


Interesting! In firefox, alt+up and alt+down appear to function as home (top of page) and end (very bottom of page). As do alt+left and alt+right (no political comment intended on that last one)
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post May 21 2018, 02:44 PM
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I've also noticed the problem. I initially saw it in Termux Emacs but was confused as it seemed to work here and there in other apps. At least now I understand why. (I'm US English keyboard with the Android from the second x27 batch, no changes.)
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post May 22 2018, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(terryowen @ May 21 2018, 06:44 PM) *
I've also noticed the problem. I initially saw it in Termux Emacs but was confused as it seemed to work here and there in other apps. At least now I understand why. (I'm US English keyboard with the Android from the second x27 batch, no changes.)


Unfortunately, this problem is one that exists on any Android device with a keyboard. Google and other toolkit developers for Android have neglected to specify key bindings for text controls in their APIs. Thus, it is a crap shoot as to which programs will support Home, End, and other insertion point movement keys.

This is one of several reasons why I really wish I could only use Linux on my Gemini but unfortunately it's not quite there yet.
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post May 24 2018, 05:09 PM
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In my preferred Android text editor Jota+ from Aquamarine Networks, Fn+arrows doesn't work, but Alt+arrows does. By default I think Jota+ uses PgUp and PgDn to change tabs. I've set mine to be PgUp and PgDn.
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post Jul 3 2018, 01:46 AM
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A ticket has been opened on Termux' bug tracker, hopefully this will be fixed in the near future:

https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/731

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Georgius
post Jul 19 2018, 12:47 AM
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Hello,
I have Czech Gemini. If I connect external USB keyboard, PgUP/Dn Home and End keys work as expected. Fn-arrow should do the same on Gemini physical keyboard, but they do not. I tried several applications and in none of those these keystrokes were processed correctly. According to used .kcm file "fallback MOVE_END" and similar are sent, which should be OK. Any hints ?

thanks
Georgius

This post has been edited by Varti: Jul 19 2018, 02:15 AM
Reason for edit: Merged this post from another, duplicated thread.
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zevv
post Jul 24 2018, 08:47 AM
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I just fixed this in Termux and submitted a pull request to upstream. Now we wait.

For the impatient, the brave and the testers, here is a debug build: http://zevv.nl/div/termux-gemini-debug.apk
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